Love the offset. Suprised he didn't put a full size spare on the back tho.
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Love the offset. Suprised he didn't put a full size spare on the back tho.
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Put a smiley after you say that Bub.
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That is a very bizarre vehicle. Maybe someone is very handy with a MIG welder and has lots of time to boot.
It would certainly be interesting to get the skinny on that rig.
Personally, I don't like Subi's either (sorry kid, Worm). Explain to me what about a 4-door sedan is exactly cool? I mean, don't get me wrong. I know they are fast to begin with. I know you can mod the beejezus out of them and make them wicked fast. But is that it? I mean, it's a SEDAN, and a VERY GENERIC looking one to begin with. I just don't get it. Why spend $30k+/- on a car like that when you could buy a used 911 for that much and have a real sports car? Someone, please help me understand!! Is it just the "ricer" subculture that is attractive to so many people?If so, that's fine, but I just don't get it. I'm not knocking them or anything, I know they are good cars, but I just don't get it. Is it just a fad?
Suburu STI
Honda Accord
They look about the same to me.
And the Outback wagons, are nothing more than hippy cars for hippies that don't genuinely care about the environment.
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well...i would NEVER EVER EVER consider buying a porsche..i think they are 100% overrated, an old 911 wont keep up with an STI in straight, corners, stopping, or reliability most of all. i personally think that porsche owners are self endulged pricks, that think they are better than everyone else because they spent too much money on their car. (sorry porsche owners, i have never meet a friendly porsche owner in person)Originally Posted by nfpgasmask
Personally, I don't like Subi's either (sorry kid, Worm). Explain to me what about a 4-door sedan is exactly cool? I mean, don't get me wrong. I know they are fast to begin with. I know you can mod the beejezus out of them and make them wicked fast. But is that it? I mean, it's a SEDAN, and a VERY GENERIC looking one to begin with. I just don't get it. Why spend $30k+/- on a car like that when you could buy a used 911 for that much and have a real sports car? Someone, please help me understand!! Is it just the "ricer" subculture that is attractive to so many people?
bart- for about 16-20k used you can pick up an STI nowadays...you get a car that is fast, corners great, stops on a dime, i can carry my 150lb rottie in, and i can drive year-round in colorado including back and forth to the mountains, and lastly but most important to me (as long as you dont molest it with mods) its reliable...theres the skinny for ya bart.
sorry, a little bit of a rant on the porsche thing...i just think that daily driver sports cars are retarded, how is it nice to only have 2 seats, only be able to drive your car 5 months of the year, and worry about it breaking down all the time, AND you cant work on it yourself??? that just seems to be true with all german sports cars....
GREAT vehicle if it is stricktly used for racing, or a weekend toy...but never a daily driver.
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Jack, did you meet Barts wife Linda in Moab? Granted she wasn't a porsche owner then...
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Explain to me what about a 4-door sedan is exactly cool?
A 4 door sedan makes a better shooting platform for the homies.
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fo shizzle :bwgr:
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Do you have data on that? Our 1999 911 is so far the smoothest car I have ever driven. Cornering is amazing. Stopping, no problem. And I haven't owned the p-car long enough to really say, but I have never heard anything about Porsche's being not reliable. I read somewhere that 60% of all Porsches ever made are still on the road. Now, that is either a testament to their extreme reliability, or the fact that Porsche owners really care for their cars for the long run.
Hmmm, I always thought of myself as a friendly person.And everyone we have met in the PCA has been VERY nice. We have even met some people who obviously have a very substantial amount of fun money, and no one has been anything but nice to us. The way you describe Porsche owners, is the way I feel about BMW drivers: 99% of the time, they are uber-pricks who think their poop don't smell.
THAT is exactly my point. For the SAME money you can have a Porsche used. Why the hell would I buy a used Subi when I could buy a used Porsche with SAME amount of money???? Sorry, prick or no prick, a Porsche looks WAY cooler than a Subi.
OK, I understand the AWD aspect of it, but I would think an SUV would be a better choice for year round driving. That said, you just nailed it for me. You are talking about the practicality. Practicality = 4 door sedan. Honda Accord, Suburu STI, both practical, same thing to me. Subis have the AWD thing, so... IMO, it seems like all the kids who drive around these modded up Subis are buying them to play "The Fast And The Furious" with their friends. They are not buying them to drive over the mountain pass in the winter, while they might be able to, that is NOT the main attraction to these cars, as far as I can tell.you get a car that is fast, corners great, stops on a dime, i can carry my 150lb rottie in, and i can drive year-round in colorado including back and forth to the mountains, and lastly but most important to me (as long as you dont molest it with mods) its reliable...
Our Porsche has 4 seats, the rear seats would not fit me however.
You got me there again, I won't even touch the Porsche. I might try to change the oil, but that is about it. But that said, how simple is a 2009 STI to work on? My brother has a Nissan 350Z and when I look under the hood I don't see anything but plastic and everything looks like it was intentionally buried so that the average grease monkey can't even begin to work on it.
I dunno, I mean, winter aside, I could easily drive the 911 to work and back every day. We have a cabriolet, and a couple weeks back we took a nice long drive through the mountains with the top down and it was the most pleasurable driving experience I have ever had on a road. Still, personally, it's not my style (after all, it is the wife's car) as I would spend $20k an early 70s muscle car ANY DAY over any Porsche or a Subi.
And aside from all this, I just used Porsche as an example. I would spend $20k on just about ANY other "fast" car. Even my brother's 350Z has a cool look. I'm not a huge fan of it, but it wins all over the place when compared to a Subi. I suppose for me it has a lot to do with aesthetics. I don't care if the car goes 0-60 in half a second, if it's ugly and/or boring looking, who cares? I want both, form AND function. Otherwise you are just another soccer mom, wanna-be hippy, or ricer who watched Initial D one to many times.
But I guess I am just a freak who has watched Mad Max one to many times!
Good discussion,
Bart
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Finally, good Bart. The first stage is getting past the denial..
But I guess I am just a freak who has watched Mad Max one to many times!
Bart
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Talk about STRANGE!!
Now this Superman VX qualifies:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...fvi%3D1&_rdc=1
Item number: 330338005296
too much......
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HAHA, the guy does not know how to spell "torque", he spells it "tork" multiple times, wow, he should not be allowed to have a eBay account
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kids are into a 4door cars.. i cant figure it out..when i was a kid only lod people got 4 door cars..to haul the grand kids in ...lol i got a 4door cause it was giving to me I never got one for myself..... the wife has one.. she needs it.its a pt cruiser we use for workk that makes sence.a tru sports car is only 2 .....as is a truck..... when you add 2 more to them you got a transport....for people not sport. my son got a accord 4door ..lol.. hes got a fin on it .oooooooooohh and little rubberband tires...hehe..and a tail pipe bigger thean a coffee can, thats one i cant figure out ether...lol..lol wait till there in there 50s ..lol
my 2 cents.....
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Exactly. What is the deal with a 4-door race car???
I just DON'T get it!?!?!
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get me some numbers on the older 911 STOCK porsches and we will see which vehicle has better stats.Do you have data on that? Our 1999 911 is so far the smoothest car I have ever driven. Cornering is amazing. Stopping, no problem. And I haven't owned the p-car long enough to really say, but I have never heard anything about Porsche's being not reliable. I read somewhere that 60% of all Porsches ever made are still on the road. Now, that is either a testament to their extreme reliability, or the fact that Porsche owners really care for their cars for the long run.
just for arguments sake, you get numbers on an "old" 911 and ill get some numbers on the STI, and we will see
Hmmm, I always thought of myself as a friendly person.
maybe my point of view is skewed, all the porsche people i have seen have been from california or colorado, they all seem to be how you explain BMW drivers (ya, i agree, they are a little like that too)
THAT is exactly my point. For the SAME money you can have a Porsche used. Why the hell would I buy a used Subi when I could buy a used Porsche with SAME amount of money???? Sorry, prick or no prick, a Porsche looks WAY cooler than a Subi.
thats where we are gonna have to agree to disagree my friend, i think that porsche body styling is stuck in the 80's...which in my opinion is the UGLIEST period of cars EVER! i feel the same way about the looks of the vette, but thats a different discussion
OK, I understand the AWD aspect of it, but I would think an SUV would be a better choice for year round driving. That said, you just nailed it for me. You are talking about the practicality. Practicality = 4 door sedan. Honda Accord, Suburu STI, both practical, same thing to me. Subis have the AWD thing, so... IMO, it seems like all the kids who drive around these modded up Subis are buying them to play "The Fast And The Furious" with their friends. They are not buying them to drive over the mountain pass in the winter, while they might be able to, that is NOT the main attraction to these cars, as far as I can tell.
see, maybe your paying attention to the negative stereotype of this car, reality is- most 'kids' cant afford to buy one of these cars anyhow...of course there are the rich brats out there, but i think the majority of subi owners spend more money on tuning their motor to have more power, than money on making it look lame...in fact, most subi owners i know remove the wing and huge scoop...
Our Porsche has 4 seats, the rear seats would not fit me however.
seems i win this one...the back seat of an impreza is actually very comfortable
You got me there again, I won't even touch the Porsche. I might try to change the oil, but that is about it. But that said, how simple is a 2009 STI to work on? My brother has a Nissan 350Z and when I look under the hood I don't see anything but plastic and everything looks like it was intentionally buried so that the average grease monkey can't even begin to work on it.
i would ABSOLUTELY work on my own subi... i would not buy a car that i could not work on mostly by myself...
I dunno, I mean, winter aside, I could easily drive the 911 to work and back every day. We have a cabriolet, and a couple weeks back we took a nice long drive through the mountains with the top down and it was the most pleasurable driving experience I have ever had on a road. Still, personally, it's not my style (after all, it is the wife's car) as I would spend $20k an early 70s muscle car ANY DAY over any Porsche or a Subi.
And aside from all this, I just used Porsche as an example. I would spend $20k on just about ANY other "fast" car. Even my brother's 350Z has a cool look. I'm not a huge fan of it, but it wins all over the place when compared to a Subi. I suppose for me it has a lot to do with aesthetics. I don't care if the car goes 0-60 in half a second, if it's ugly and/or boring looking, who cares? I want both, form AND function. Otherwise you are just another soccer mom, wanna-be hippy, or ricer who watched Initial D one to many times.
But I guess I am just a freak who has watched Mad Max one to many times!
Good discussion,
Bart
hmmmm..... tell ken block that one my friend
http://www.kenblockracing.com/#home
definately not a sports car, with 500+WHP and can jump 171ft
you mean the audi R8??I've heard nothing but great stuff about 911's
It's THE only super car that can be driven daily!
maybe Aston Martin DB9 or Audi RX8
maybe you dont understand the reason the STI was build....Exactly. What is the deal with a 4-door race car???
I just DON'T get it!?!?!
in rally racing the upper classes you MUST have 4 doors, hence, build the STI with 4 doors.... also, not really why they built it with 4 doors, but look at the difference in insurance costs between a 2 door and 4 door, then tell me its a dumb vehicle
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I've heard nothing but great stuff about 911's
It's THE only super car that can be driven daily!
maybe Aston Martin DB9 or Audi RX8
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