justin, bart...not at all...
im reading this thread with a smile on my face.

i enjoy discussing cars...its hard to find ANYONE around here who doesnt just simply say...well its a ricer and its not worth a crap...

and justin, i think you are probably right...if i got in the passenger (or better driver ) seat of a built muscle car im sure i wouuld have a smile on my face... then let me flip the coin on you and say that if you got in my buddy/mechanic's 09 skyline GTR you would probably have a smile on your face as you take a 15mph turn at 90mph.... or as you get sideways at 80+ MPH in his fully built nissan silvia...or even sitting passenger in his 'little' honda civic... oh ya, it runs 11.6 1/4 mile at 6,400ft elevation

i guess there is a time and place for anything...any fast car is fun to ride in...and i love pretty much all cars