Slopro was indicating a false neutral that exists between 4 Hi & 4 Lo.Originally Posted by Travelin2
Super VXer
Slopro was indicating a false neutral that exists between 4 Hi & 4 Lo.
Super VXer
on this same topic... is it bad to let the vx roll down a hill in neutral? occasionally if im in too much of a hurry to let the vx warm up properly ill just start it and leave it in neutral and let it roll down to the bottom of my hill.. probably like 1/2-3/4 miles with the vx just idling, that way when i get to the bottom ive had a lil more time for oil flow.. i usually hit 35-40mph by the end
what exactly makes the vx bad to tow all 4 down?
Super VXer
The only advice I'm able to find in the owners manual, (ch. 6 - pg. 15) is with regard to coasting down hill being unsafe, I haven't been able to find any mechanical reason given against coasting.
And back to towing...
In ch. 7 - pg.15 it says:
The all wheel drive car must never be towed with either the front wheels or the rear wheels raised.
*The car may be towed from the front with all four wheels in the ground.
*This vehicle may be towed at speeds below 35 mph (55 km/h) for a distance not exceeding 50 miles (80 km).
*Towing attachments must be made to main structural members of the vehicle. Do not attach to bumpers or associated brackets.
They didn't mention anything about front axle half shafts...
I don't know "what exactly" makes the VX bad to tow 4 down, I would guess it has to do with the TOD...
Last edited by Ldub : 06/16/2009 at 01:30 AM
Super VXer
Speaking from pure, unadulterated ignorance; I think the towing 4 down problem is associated with lack of lubrication.
"there is one or more bearings in the transmission that need to be lubed and some require a lube pump to be turning."
I do know that when I towed my Suzuki Samurai 4 down with the tranny and TX in neutral, the odo and speedo both registered. That indicates to me that there is much more moving than you would ever expect whilst in neutral.
Eric,
Since you have the vehicle running and in neutral, you should be fine. You're supposed to check fluid level on an automatic tranny only after idling in neutral for 10 min to ensure proper reading. That implies to me that the pump is running and therefore keeping everything lubed.
Tom
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Put a smiley after you say that Bub.
Super VXer
manual hubs on front and a quick release drive line in rear.....
http://www.remcotowing.com/node/7
good stuff on towing here
http://www.remcotowing.com
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Super VXer
Don; Thanks for that thought. I think it saved my VX. Remco says no but this outfit says the same thing you did and they buy their stuff from Remco..go figure?
http://www.drivetrain.com/parts_cata...ing/isuzu.html
Super VXer
Super VXer
Uhhh.... NO! I'm not indicating anything Ldub. Because I don't know.
The shop manual makes numerous mentions of a neutral position in the TOD and when I put my mine in that position all TOD lights go out as described in the manual and the VX rolls freely despite the transmission being in Park - so it sure seemed like neutral to me. And that's why I didn't understand the need for a transfer case swap.
But then Travelin2 said, "The Borg/Warner TOD TC doesn't have a dedicated neutral and the system of clutches that makes up the TOD system evidently don't allow for the driveshafts to be driven without the transmission being spun." So I thought well maybe the TOD "neutral" is just for diagnostic purposes or something and not a "true" usable neutral as found in other transfer cases. But again, I don't know. That's why I asked the original question. All I was trying to do is figure something out man - simply to satisfy curiosity...
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