The Short Wheel Base SUV Thread

[nfpgasmask]

Yeah but have you seen Jay Dunford's blacked out FJ? He took it to Moab with all of us, it one of the only FJ's I like, it is a pretty sweet ride and he is not done with it yet.

Yup, I wheeled with Jay in Moab 08. It's not that I hate it or anything, it's just that I have tried to like it for a while, and I have finally reached my decision... Either way, I'm sure they make good wheelers and have some good aspects.

But you have a point. Blacking out any vehicle definitely takes it up a notch as far as coolness.

Bart

[pbkid]

ohhhh.... i misread...this thread is about what vehicles bart likes????


ok...never mind on the FJ then...

pretty sure it would destroy 95% of the vehicles on this list in the offroad world, but its too ugly i guess

gotta jab ya bart

[taylorRichie]

pretty sure it would destroy 95%

How do you figure?

And FJ is 1.5 door on each side right??

I think the FJ can out wheel 50% stock, and if we're comparing modded I'd say 35%

[pbkid]

50%??? how do you figure?? the FJ has a built in locker...stock...


show me another vehicle there with a built in locker...(ok, the rubicon does, but what else??)

[taylorRichie]

Locker doesn't mean it can outwheel... ask Zeus

Also it's an "option" so calling it stock isn't really fair.

[pbkid]

Locker doesn't mean it can outwheel... ask Zeus well then i would call that driver skill, not vehicle capability

Also it's an "option" so calling it stock isn't really fair.

i dunno...i just dont believe that many of the vehicles on that list could out-do an FJ

[nfpgasmask]

ohhhh.... i misread...this thread is about what vehicles bart likes????

Well, yes and no. I do like a lot of these vehicles, several of them not so much. Of all of them listed there are two I would LOVE to have, the Defender 90 and a 89 Trooper RS. The rest you can keep.

So, if you want a jab, here's one: Did you even read the beginning of this post?

"- Is considered a "sport utility vehicle" or "light truck"
- Only 2 doors
- Has a SWB
- Has a stock xfer case (no 4x4 lifted Ford Feisas on 35"s please)
- Non military, consumer vehicle"

FJ don't fit.

So there!

Bart

[nfpgasmask]

i dunno...i just dont believe that many of the vehicles on that list could out-do an FJ

Well that proves nothing. You just like the FJ, so therefore it can out do most of the vehilces on this list? I love my VX, but I know there are plenty of Jeeps out there that would run circles around it.

And regardless, even if the FJ was THE BEST WHEELER in the world, it simply doesn't fit the list, ugly or not. If I add it, I might as well add the Xterra too, just for good measure, right?

Bart

[taylorRichie]

well then i would call that driver skill, not vehicle capability

I hope you're not implying Justin has skill!!


















j/k of course...

I like the FJ, I could drive one in the future, and I do believe it is very capable, but I wouldn't say it's anymore or less capable than any other on the list.

We're not talking stock trim here... We all dream of what we could do, can do and will do, not how they come stock

[Riff Raff]

Hopefully; the Chinese will build the new Hummer HX/H4 concept, and Ford will build the new retro Bronco concept. In the meantime, I'll just have to be happy with my FJ-40 & VX.

Incidentally, I used to own a 1997 Limited Edition (#127 of 300 made) LR Defender-90. I sold it to put a very substantial down payment on a house. The Defender-90 is a super-tough truck, but drank gas like frickin' kool-aid (when the speedometer needle goes to the right; the gas gauge needle goes to the left, at the same time - no joke). I will say this however, that the Defender-90 is one of the very few 4x4's; besides the legendary FJ-40, that retains (and often even increases) its re-sale market value.

[nfpgasmask]

I will say this however, that the Defender-90 is one of the very few 4x4's; besides the legendary FJ-40, that retains (and often even increases) its re-sale market value.

And that is exactly why I don't have one. I've seen D90s with like 125k on the clock still selling for $30,000!!!!

I mean, they are awesome and all, but come on!

Bart

[nfpgasmask]

I have more tenacity and finess than skill! Plus I have Ldub and Linda and the hands and rides of others to help me thru! See, you don't NEED lockers!

That's right! It's all about pickin' the right line and having a good spotter!!!

Bart

[kodiak]

Hahaha! Justin’s I wish I had a locker moment.

[pbkid]

Yup, it IS too ugly! Really though, I think it depends on the trail. An FJ would get eaten up on certain trails that a Samurai could squeeze through. And if you want to compare these rigs as a starting platform for greater things, the FJ would be destroyed by "95%" of the vehicles on this list even though you can get it with lockers out of the box. For the cost of an FJ with the goods, you can get almost any one of these other older rides and deck it out to outperform the FJ VERY easily.

right, but we arent talking about...what the best offroad vehicle is for a low budget...we are talking about good offroad vehicles..

i could just as easily say, give me a go-kart and 15K and ill outrun a ferrari

[blacksambo]

I think even Lamborgini did a two door?