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    Cool

    I think the 1rst generation of KIA sportage may fit the bill along with the hyundai tucson even though both are four-doors.
    Was the jeep cherokee sport aldeary included on the list
    Dakar was just the begining.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gussie2000 View Post
    I think the 1rst generation of KIA sportage may fit the bill along with the hyundai tucson even though both are four-doors.
    Was the jeep cherokee sport aldeary included on the list
    Although I have my personal reservations about its clasification honda has the "element" in the SUV category

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    Yeah, whole point of this thread, is

    No 4-doors
    No Pick-ups
    No 4x4 "cars"
    And another criteria I should have added, is no concepts, because imo, they count about as much as a Hot Wheels toy.

    And the SWB issue could be clarified with exact measurements, but that would be too much work. I think the Bronco II I last posted is pushing the limits there....I was thinking about the Jeep Liberty, but they I remembered it is a 4-door so it doesn't count.

    Bart

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    Well, excuuuuuse me....

    The Wagoneer came in Two door. As did the Kia Sportage.

    As for the wheelbase the Grand that Cari drives is not that much bigger but yes its a four door but they did/do? make the square body style in 2 door.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrnCnn View Post
    Well, excuuuuuse me....

    The Wagoneer came in Two door. As did the Kia Sportage.

    As for the wheelbase the Grand that Cari drives is not that much bigger but yes its a four door but they did/do? make the square body style in 2 door.
    Right, as did the Trooper, but the RS qualifies with only 2 doors. So shortened versions definitely quality. I need to look up the Wagoneer, I can't think of that it looks like...

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    I just looked up the Wagoneer and the 2-door Jeep Cherokee. I think both of those are a little too long. Vehicles with only 2 doors that are big enough to have 4 doors really aren't SWB vehicles, imo. That would mean the original 2 Trooper should be in there, but technically it's certainly not short enough.

    Only 2 doors, but certainly not short...


    What I was really going for with this thread are those little trucks that are seldom made anymore for some reason (at least in the USA), that end up being legendary little wheeling machines. If you look at the majority of the entries, we have a lot to choose from, but very few of these vehicles are available any more. And the "new school" of SWB SUVs tend to be a little wimpy, imo.

    Everything today is either:

    A) A pick-up truck
    B) A wimpy grocery getter hardly qualified enough to be a stout SWB 4x4 (i.e. RAV4 and CRV)
    C) A full sized 4-door SUV

    It really seems the only vehicle made in any significant number today (in the US) that fits this criteria is the Jeep Wrangler.

    I think the whole point of this thread for me was to get a nice list of those vehicles that fit into that "legendary little wheeling machine" category.

    I just don't know why we don't have stuff like this anymore...except for Jeeps.

    Bart

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    I think it has to do with the perception about "the bigger the better"
    For example,one of my friends when he saw the VX he replay : Gus,that buggy is terrific,but too small (he drives a 2007 laredo)"why didn't you bought a bigger truck ? I think is "better"
    He didn't ask me about how the VX perform or if is dependable more than "it's too small"
    The manufacturers actually rushed that perception into the comsumers & dropped any future 2 door project probably to safe money on the long road leaving the customer with no options more then : You take it or leave it
    If we all look at the current market you can find almost all manufactures producing two doors sport cars (i.e) Ford,BMW,lexus,infiniti,chevrolet,honda,nissan,dog de,etc because sport cars is perceived to be build for the singled/very independent/whatever you think/who cares/free kids/i'm not a baby mama individual although a coupe SUV can do the same job & falls into the same category

    Beside all that the SUV has being showcased as the "family oriented" vehicule,you can prove your self that by looking at the TV adds the way how they shows you a whole family on board of a SUV & the single guys friving around. On his V8 coupe.
    This perception has condemmed any 2 doors SUV as the nemesis of a SUV's main purpose.

    Can anyone recall which is last two door SUV (brand,model & year) on the dealer's show floor ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gussie2000 View Post
    Although I have my personal reservations about its clasification honda has the "element" in the SUV category
    Yeah, definitley NO. And No Scion xB either!

    Bart

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