Rear Door Spare Tire Mount

[Ldub]

I'm in my right mind too, you just can't tell...

I, for one, would never ever do this mod, mostly because I am sure it would really screw things up on trails like Hell's Revenge and Fins 'N Things and Steel Bender... If you aren't going to go on trails like that (wall climbing and descending) it is prob'ly fine... except for perhaps a point Chopper made sometime ago about excess weight on the hinges. Don't really know about that though...

The ultimate mod for trails like that is an open diff......

[pbkid]

The ultimate mod for trails like that is an open diff......

HAHHAHAHA i actually laughed out loud on that one.... lol

ZEUS Quote:
Originally Posted by Ldub
The ultimate mod for trails like that is an open diff......

...or a crap load of weight in and on top of a VX...

hahaha right back at ya...

i love this family...

[pbkid]

damnit it didnt work....how do you guys do more than one quote per box???

[Scott Harness]

damnit it didnt work....how do you guys do more than one quote per box???

Click on the multi-qoute icon. It's the one with the qoutation marks,next to the qoute icon

[pbkid]

On the above quotes you would simply click on the "+" sign which is the multi-quote button on all the multiple different quotes you want to reference and then on the last post you want to quote go ahead and click on the normal "quote" button and it will come out looking like what I did above.

Click on the multi-qoute icon. It's the one with the qoutation marks,next to the qoute icon

ahhh.... i see....

thanks guys

[Marlin]

As far as departure angles, I would think that the tire will sit high enough that you would lose cladding first? I think the pics of Tom's may be deceiving do to the huge offset he has as well. That tire is wide!!!!! Plus, if you have a hitch back there, that takes all the hits anyway. I suppose my hitch is more of a rear skid plate than an actual hitch.
As far as legwork for the mount, I am gonna go to the junkyard this weekend if it ever stops raining and take a look at some rodeos and troopers, maybe some older Pathfinders or 4runners if the bolt pattern is right. I will let you guys know. The more I started thinking about the stress on the roof rack, the more worried I am getting. If that thing comes off while driving...it will kill someone. That does not sound like fun in my book.
As far as door deformation, I think a backing plate is very important to distribute the stress, and as Tom said, be careful when you open the door, and keep it lubricated. When was the last time you lubed YOUR rear end?

[pbkid]

When was the last time you lubed YOUR rear end?

i have no response to that....

and im kinda dissapointed that we didnt get some sort of really technical answer from you about the stress....Mr. aeronautical guy...

[LittleBeast]

HAHHAHAHA i actually laughed out loud on that one.... lol

ZEUS Quote:
Originally Posted by Ldub
The ultimate mod for trails like that is an open diff......

...or a crap load of weight in and on top of a VX...

hahaha right back at ya...

i love this family...

damnit it didnt work....how do you guys do more than one quote per box???

On the above quotes you would simply click on the "+" sign which is the multi-quote button on all the multiple different quotes you want to reference and then on the last post you want to quote go ahead and click on the normal "quote" button and it will come out looking like what I did above.

[Ldub]

...or a crap load of weight in and on top of a VX...

That has saved YOUR butt at least once.........

[Marlin]

Just to piss Justin off, I am going to evaluate putting the full size spare inside the original spare location first. It may require some cutting of that internal brace for the factory spare, but I am willing to do that. I also understand that my door insert won't be effective anymore, and I am also ok with that, now I will have two of them in the garage. I will post how that works out. It would give me the best of both worlds, get the spare off the roof, and not drill as many holes, especially externally, on the VX. I do lose my rear bumper bonus, but eh, you win some, you lose some.

[Marlin]

Hey, come on... that wouldn't piss me off at all! ...In fact, I already tried it - the tire was way too big to take it one step further even if it were resting at a 60 degree angle - other than that, the structural integrity would be too compromised for it to work. My favorite idea regarding all this was to remove the hatch completely and replace it with one made of tube so the spare would swing on it and sit right above the bumper instead of behind it... it would only work for the dedicated wheeling VX I have in my dreams tho!

I was referring to the changing my mind aspect...
Anyway, I looked real hard at the Pathfinder mounting system. It is separate of the door, and it actually mounts to the side of the vehicle, placing the weight on a different set of hinges. It would be difficult to make it fit the contours of the VX though. It would not be impossible and it would still allow convenient access to the door vice the hitch type spare mount. Not a fan of the hitch type at all. We shall see tomorrow morning, I should have pics up by lunch if it stops raining.

[CrnCnn]

Hey, come on... that wouldn't piss me off at all! ...In fact, I already tried it - the tire was way too big to take it one step further even if it were resting at a 60 degree angle - other than that, the structural integrity would be too compromised for it to work. My favorite idea regarding all this was to remove the hatch completely and replace it with one made of tube so the spare would swing on it and sit right above the bumper instead of behind it... it would only work for the dedicated wheeling VX I have in my dreams tho!

I can imagine it now. A rear tube door. All that visibility. Awww... soothing....

[Triathlete]

What about a vertical "tube" carrier that would allow the tire to sit right in front of the factory spare space. You could remove the cover and donut to get the tire as far to the rear as possible. Put a hinge and pin at the bottom so when the door is open it can swing down for ease of removal and to access other stuff in the rear.

[VX1032]

Hubs:

Both should fit, the 93 for sure, the 88 most likely. I think 87 is the break for the 8 bolt front axles. The red ones are the aisins. strongest hubs out there but way too expensive to buy new. I went with Warns instead of getting scrap aisins and rebuilding. Matt at indie has rebuild kits you an buy for the aisins.

Tire mount:

sounds like you are too far in, but have you ever thought, what I will do eventually, to creat a shelf in the back of the VX that the spare tire can slip under? I know my 285/75 would fit in nicely. The area could have some extra area around the sides, and infront behind the seats plenty of room for an OBA tank. you lose the rear seat though, but I think most of us are well past that point. Also, no external fabrication needed. its all contained inside.

[Marlin]

tank. you lose the rear seat though, but I think most of us are well past that point. Also, no external fabrication needed. its all contained inside.

Loss of rear seat is not an option for me. Otherwise I agree that would be the best route, just put everything on top of the spare. Or even just stand it on its side behind the seat like the cherokee. Not a significant loss.
Nope, its goin on the door tomorrow morning, if worst comes to worst, I can always just take it off and install the bolts with some RTV, paint them some color I deem fitting and you are left with a very subtle mod remnant that the average person would never even notice.