VX Kat you saved me I bought the Coopers off Ebay before you said to make sure they are theLTZs. I bought the XSTs from a place called big_a_tires. I had already paid thru PAYPAL. I sent my wah wah to the guy and offered to pay a fee to have the tires not sent. This guy refunded me and wouldn't take any money for his trouble. What a great guy. Makes me have faith in people when I get treated like that. I had lost faith for a while after all the Dougie comments but I'm getting over them