Best Price Nittos

[MSHardeman]

I have a set of Terra Grapplers right now and I'm going to need a new set soon. After some poking around on the internet I have found them for as low as $160 per tire, but that price may be for the 285/60/18 120S version. My question is, what the heck does the 120S stand for and why is it cheaper?

[don moore]

in tire lingo the 120 is for the load it can handle ..120 is around 3000 lbs per tire...the S is for the speed rating ...S is for 112mph after 112mph the tire looses its shape and gets warped.

[VX KAT]

PepBoys (at least in AZ) has the Cooper Zeon LTZ for Buy3 get 1 free, price ~$161/tire (PLUS m/b ($60), + state sales tax. Tire Rack (my longtime fav) doesn't sell Coopers.
I used that price as my "price to beat" and ended up paying $173.82/tire + sales tax, but it included m/b plus:
~rotate & balance 10 times
~free flat repair (with plug) lifetime
~one free alignment ~$70 value (where we live, alignments are needed frequently! None of the chain or private shops around here offers lifetime alignment deals like we had in Dallas)
~free flat change (even though I have roadside assistance like AAA)

These extras made it worth paying the $173.82/tire price vs. PepBoys $161 + $15 m/b as they weren't apples to apples just on that per tire price, since m/b was xtra at PepBoys and none of the other bennies listed above.

Doug (somebeach) you may want to checkout PepBoys prices & deals on the Coopers.

The 120S load/speed rating also made the Coopers a tad lighter than the TGs.
Just my .02 cents worth of info

[VX4EJR]

Sooo.....what is the real difference between the Nitto Terra Grappler model "285/60R18 120S" and the "LT285/60R18 E 123S" that they list on their site? (these appear to be the only two sizes available by Nitto in 285 and 18 that will fit the VX).
The 123S is a little more expensive, but the 120S seems to be an extra load size which you'd think should be more expensive....confusing?

in tire lingo the 120 is for the load it can handle ..120 is around 3000 lbs per tire...the S is for the speed rating ...S is for 112mph after 112mph the tire looses its shape and gets warped.

[Riff Raff]

Sooo.....what is the real difference between the Nitto Terra Grappler model "285/60R18 120S" and the "LT285/60R18 E 123S" that they list on their site? (these appear to be the only two sizes available by Nitto in 285 and 18 that will fit the VX).
The 123S is a little more expensive, but the 120S seems to be an extra load size which you'd think should be more expensive....confusing?

Two Words: "TIRE WEIGHT"...........is the major difference. The Nitto - Terra Grappler in 285/60R18-120S is heavy, and the LT285/60R18-E-123S is heavy "er". NITTO, USA does not list the specific weight of their tires on their website and that is extremely unfortunate. You will have to send them an E-Mail and ask for specific tire weights.

On the other hand, VX KAT's choice of the new radical-looking COOPER - Zeon "LTZ" is just a baaaaaaaad-assssssssss tire and only weighs 49 lbs. Get the brand new COOPER - Zeon "LTZ" in P285/60R18 and never look back. Less Weight + Less Expensive = More Happy!!!

[VX KAT]

Are we there yet mom?.....I feel like that's what I want to call and ask the tire shop..."Are they there yet?" No, Suzy, we told you, not until Friday 6/5! But it will be one week tomorrow...where are they coming from? MARS???
ARGHHH!

I don't do "be patient" well!

[etlsport]

the "e" load rating makes the tire consierably heavier.. and considerably stronger when it comes to the sidewall.. so if you do hard offroading, the E load rating is probably best.. just looking for good all weather traction for on road.. you could probably get away with the lower one

i just noticed that all of the nittos listed were s speed rating.. are there higher? pretty sure the stock duelers were H speed rating, dropping two levels will probably affect your handling a decent amount

[VX KAT]

WOHOOOOOO!
Decided to call & check with tire shop...WOHOO! They were in (and had been since last Friday:madp:...they told me 6/5), anyway, they are BIG & MEATY! None of the shop guys thought they were goin' fit...even I had my doubts once I saw how big they looked!

There were some Nitto TGs (Giant 325s!) in the shop so it was great to see & compare both side by side. The Cooper's are a bit more "aggressive " looking, nice square shoulders, really cool tread pattern, will bit into dirt etc..really well. Filled them to 40 psi, but Riff says to take 'em up to 50 per sidewall.

Showed them the pic where to rim cladding, they trimmed it off & everything went smooth! Now no rubbing, no problem, AND no more shimmy (as they discovered all my weights had fallen off the old), I now have a much better ride quality, smoother over the ruts and potholes etc on the dirt road, AND, the biggest factor...I can still get in it!!!! That 1.21" increase is still "doable" (but I sure couldn't get it any higher than that). So I'm totally jazzed!!!! I'm in love with these tires! If you have any doubts, DON'T....get them!

Will get it cleaned up and post some pics tomorrow.