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    The thing(s) that makes me a little "gunshy" about the development so far...

    No fuel rails & no provision for the EGR.

    I do realize that this is a process, & also that Alpine Developments moves at a pace that's known to all who have ever had any dealings with them as slooooooooow.

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    hhhmm, ya the fuel rail thing would need to be addressed but worse comes to worse, you can make your own rails if the stocks won't fit, it's not hard. Get some fuel rail stock, make some brackets, get some injectors, wire up with yuor stock injector wiring, some an- braided lines and fittings and voila! I'd probably run an adjustable FMU on it too to dial in the right amount of fuel since we don't have tuning software yet for these things (probably never will unless you switch to megasquirt for the fuel and ignition controls ). And I wouldn't be too worried about EGR, it can be plumbed up another way or you can delete it all together. Make an adapter plate to dump it behind the throttle body or even in front of the throttle body.
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    Re: fuel rails and EGR

    Ya, but that's a lot of "make" and "mod" yourself for a S/C kit. I would expect to get everything in 1 package (like Alpine attempted to do, but failed) for the amount of $$ I am spending.

    And fuel rails need to be JUST RIGHT to work with the injectors. Plenty of thought and planning needs to go into that design. One screw up, and your VX gets a free flame job.
    Gary Noonan
    '01 S/C VX / '18 Forester XT

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    If you've done them before it's not too difficult, especially if the injector bungs are already drilled at the proper angle and diameter to seal/work properly. Depending on the price I would feel the same way. But I'm a tinkerer and love making my own stuff so at the right price this would be right up my alley lol, that and I've done similar stuff before so it's not foreign to me

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    Agreed fuel rails are not hard if you have done them, and agreed it would be intimidating if you hadnt done them before, and agreed for a premium priced kit you would expect to just bolt it on - we aint HKS!

    We are going to have a turn key system too, but I for one would like to accomodate the tinkerers too
    EGR for us on our trucks is a 'dont care' but we also realise that for a lot of people retaining it is important so it wont be forgotten, I imagine as an 'include' option
    Fuel rails will be included, they are not in that pic because *cough* we havent received them yet......
    We are working on cracking the ECU, have got to 'handshake' stage but havent got access to the lookup tables yet....
    That may not help you in the US as our ECU, while still a Delco is different to yours.
    The answer is more power! What was the question?

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    Good to hear! Except the part about your ecu being different

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    Apologies for the fuzzies....late at nite, workshop lighting not the best, iphone blah blah
    We are making progress and we are STILL waiting for the rest of the parts from Alpine....







    Sheesh....this has turned into 'Robs Excellent Adventure' - only without the excellent part....not yet anyway

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    lol I'm just glad your working on it, I REALLY want one of these on my VX, just waiting on you sir hehe It's looking good!

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    It looks like you can cut the stock fuel rails and join the 2 sides with a piece of high pressure hose to make it fit.

    John C.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hotsauce View Post
    It looks like you can cut the stock fuel rails and join the 2 sides with a piece of high pressure hose to make it fit.

    John C.
    The stock fuel rail reversed will fit too - that puts the feed and return at the front of course, although the lines can fit under the manifold in the V easily enough. Appeals a little because of the pig-dog awful access to anything at the rear of these engines! Seems a little 'inelegant' though, some nice alloy rail extrusions look better

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    Its all on its way!

    Placed the request for pickup from South Africa today Will have ALL the parts in my sweaty hands soon!

    Please disregard any pricing discussions - Our final cost price was impossible for me to calculate as Alpine were vague and shipping was incomplete! Once this shipment lands all our out-of-pockets are over (and there has been quite a lot believe me!) and I can do more than just guess what a kit might cost.

    Thought it would take 12 months - I waz wrong!

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    Like I said on the Planet, I can't wait for you guys to finish this thing, if you get everything up and running I won;t be thinking about an engine swap anymore

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    FYI - a crew of Russian VXers are on a project of integrating a ROTREX C30-94 S/C into their VXers... I wonder which project comes to life first?
    Vodka... Connecting people

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petos View Post
    FYI - a crew of Russian VXers are on a project of integrating a ROTREX C30-94 S/C into their VXers... I wonder which project comes to life first?
    We are moving at Alpine speed Petos... so I think you will
    All the packages arrived but only about 80% of what we were expecting was in the boxes...and now two weeks since email sent wit no response...how they survive in business is beyond me!

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    I hear Duke Nuke'm Forever is being released soon.

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