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crotchrocket Swine Fever Outbreak. 04/30/2009, 03:01 AM
VX crazy As long as people take... 04/30/2009, 05:15 AM
CrnCnn We now have a two year old in... 04/30/2009, 06:29 AM
VehiGAZ Don't believe the hype. If... 04/30/2009, 07:04 AM
Ldub Thanks a lot ! 04/30/2009, 07:11 AM
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Ldub To quote Vincent Vega...bacon... 04/30/2009, 07:23 AM
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CrnCnn My main concern is having a... 04/30/2009, 08:22 AM
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VehiGAZ New forum rule... Always... 04/30/2009, 11:55 AM
CrnCnn I have seen that movie so... 04/30/2009, 12:20 PM
Marlin Whats crazy is that I didn't... 04/30/2009, 12:29 PM
Riff Raff Oink, Oink. 04/30/2009, 03:45 PM
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CrnCnn Crotchrocket, You seem to... 04/30/2009, 03:55 PM
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crotchrocket lol, and i never get to get... 05/01/2009, 12:23 AM
circmand look at this 04/30/2009, 03:58 PM
Marlin LMFAO, manbearpig was right... 04/30/2009, 04:48 PM
Jolly Roger VX\'er That's a hoot! 04/30/2009, 09:27 PM
crager34 From a friend. 04/30/2009, 01:23 PM
Osteomata Would that be this Dr... 05/01/2009, 05:42 AM
VehiGAZ DO's are all quacks, it... 05/01/2009, 07:04 AM
Osteomata I just dont get that... 05/01/2009, 07:29 AM
circmand not too mention 05/01/2009, 08:19 AM
Osteomata Well, just so I'm clear on... 05/01/2009, 09:16 AM
vt_maverick Organizations acting in their... 05/01/2009, 12:17 PM
Osteomata Well, private organizations... 05/01/2009, 12:44 PM
vt_maverick Point taken on private v.... 05/01/2009, 03:37 PM
Osteomata OK, I can buy that much... 05/01/2009, 06:07 PM
don moore ok.. I just ordered 100 cases... 05/01/2009, 11:02 PM
Riff Raff Chicken noodle soup??? Not... 05/02/2009, 04:53 AM
VXR New rule don't Etc., etc...... 04/30/2009, 01:45 PM
nfpgasmask Yeah, IMO, it's all just... 04/30/2009, 08:28 AM
MSHardeman Bart, don't you still have a... 04/30/2009, 09:52 AM
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circmand i agree with you 100% 04/30/2009, 03:32 PM
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LittleBeast Oh geez has finger pointing... 04/30/2009, 03:05 PM
LittleBeast as far as the pigs go..... 04/30/2009, 03:11 PM
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    Quote Originally Posted by Osteomata View Post
    Well, just so I'm clear on this view:
    Faced with the whole of the world's numerous and various health agencies saying that there is a major health threat that deserves significant attention and preventaive measure, you have two options:
    1. Believe that they are probably expressing reasonable assessments, though they certainly, and appropriately, err on the side of caution.
    2. Assume that a massive, world-wide, multi-agency scam is underway in which these agencies have colluded in order to decieve the world regarding a largely made up threat, all for the purposes of securing their agency budgets.

    Also, it is helpful to differentiate between the health agencies (CDC, WHO, etc) and The Media.

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    Organizations acting in their own best interest is called capitalism, not a conspiracy.

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    Well, private organizations acting in their own best interest is a aspect of capitalism. These government organizations, by supposedly acting in their own best interest by massively exagerating to the point of coordinated international lie-festivals, might also take as their best interest the risk of being called out by legitimate, qualified specialist that disagree. So far I have a couple of news paper editorial wirters and a quack. I'm going with the CDC and the thousands of epidemiologists that have experience on the subject.

    Quote Originally Posted by vt_maverick View Post
    Organizations acting in their own best interest is called capitalism, not a conspiracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Osteomata View Post
    Well, private organizations acting in their own best interest is a aspect of capitalism. These government organizations, by supposedly acting in their own best interest by massively exagerating to the point of coordinated international lie-festivals...
    Point taken on private v. public. Perhaps evolution / natural selection is a better fit. We see it all the time in the government / defense sector. If your agency doesn't stay relevant, you'll disappear. And there's nothing high-level bureaucrats fear more than that.

    Again, just because multiple organizations have the same motivations and therefore act in the same way does NOT mean they are part of a "coordinated international lie-festival" conspiracy in the same way that the hundreds of people who flock to a Chevy dealership for an employee pricing sale aren't part of some anti-foreign automaker conspiracy. They just all have the same motivation, and therefore take the same action on the issue.

    Btw, I don't think the agencies are overhyping either. Heck, I hope it's the JOB of organizations charged with worldwide disease control TO be paranoid. I agree with others however that the media is recasting cautious statements and actions to create a ratings spike.

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    OK, I can buy that much easier, as I made the distinction between The Media and the multiple health organizations earlier. I don't particularly care what the media is saying, I based my assessment of the threat on the warnings from every (that is, I have found no exceptions) national and international health organization, both government and non-profit.

    Also a member of the government /defense sector, and my program looks solid for another five years, heh.

    Point taken on private v. public. Perhaps evolution / natural selection is a better fit. We see it all the time in the government / defense sector. If your agency doesn't stay relevant, you'll disappear. And there's nothing high-level bureaucrats fear more than that.

    Again, just because multiple organizations have the same motivations and therefore act in the same way does NOT mean they are part of a "coordinated international lie-festival" conspiracy in the same way that the hundreds of people who flock to a Chevy dealership for an employee pricing sale aren't part of some anti-foreign automaker conspiracy. They just all have the same motivation, and therefore take the same action on the issue.

    Btw, I don't think the agencies are overhyping either. Heck, I hope it's the JOB of organizations charged with worldwide disease control TO be paranoid. I agree with others however that the media is recasting cautious statements and actions to create a ratings spike.

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    ok.. I just ordered 100 cases of EMERGEN-Cs and 200 cans of chicken noodle soup..Im set
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]...

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    Quote Originally Posted by don moore View Post
    ok.. I just ordered 200 cans of chicken noodle soup..Im set
    Chicken noodle soup??? Not for me, I prefer Bean n' Bacon.

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