The 913 Experiment

[Lizardmen3477]

Thats what I thought but these say Front
http://www.amazon.com/Daystar-KC0910...0799371&sr=8-1
Is there a Limit to how much you can crank the front to make it even? Most i ttthink ive seen is 16 turns which I believe calculated out to just under 4inchs

[Triathlete]

4 inches is about max...but you will probably want to make yourself real familiar with the cv replacement procedure.

[Lizardmen3477]

Yea I dunt wanna go that high and prefer not to buy cvs every week, Thats why I was looking into the lift and I have seen most people dont have problems with the Cvs. I just wanna get the 912s and lvl the front to them which should only be 3"s ish. So hopefully wont be to many side effects

[Marlin]

Yea I dunt wanna go that high and prefer not to buy cvs every week, Thats why I was looking into the lift and I have seen most people dont have problems with the Cvs. I just wanna get the 912s and lvl the front to them which should only be 3"s ish. So hopefully wont be to many side effects

FWIW
Not sure that the 912s will get you 3". The 919s are the tallest and stiffest (well, the 929s are stiffer, but they are shorter). I have 919s on both my zus, with no spacers, and I got right at 3" of lift. 13 or 14 turns on the Tbars, and away I go. I have not busted any CVs (until I installed the locker, and they were aftermarket CVs). I also never tore a boot, until I swapped in garbage mecatech boots.

[Lizardmen3477]

O I heard the 912s were the main spring that most had and it was a 3" lift from them. Could someone Share how much their lift is from the 912s. I havent heard much about the 919s How do you like they you say a stiffer ride? How much stiffer then the stock ride? Are you lvl with the 919s and the 14 cranks?

[Triathlete]

912's will net you about 2.5 inches.

[Marlin]

O I heard the 912s were the main spring that most had and it was a 3" lift from them. Could someone Share how much their lift is from the 912s. I havent heard much about the 919s How do you like they you say a stiffer ride? How much stiffer then the stock ride? Are you lvl with the 919s and the 14 cranks?

I am level. Ideally, the front end should sit a bit lower than the rear end. (unless you want one of those cali looking pseudo baja trucks where the front end is 2 feet higher than the rear end, on an F250 no less). I can't tell you the ride difference between the 912s and the 919s, I put the 919s and Rancho9000s on at the same time. I would guess that setup gets you as close to factory teeth jarring stiffness as possible. When you do the springs, make sure you do the shocks as well, they are probably toast. Our OEM shocks are not known for their longevity. The good thing about the rancho9000s, if its too stiff for you, just dial em down to soften the ride.

[SilverBullet75]

Thats what I thought but these say Front
http://www.amazon.com/Daystar-KC0910...0799371&sr=8-1

Ahh. The reason it says "front" is because they are originally for the front of the Dodge 1500 truck, which happened to work for the VX rear.

BTW... I did 16 cranks on the front, then did a measurement of all 4 (floor to center of wheel well arch) and ended up backing the right front down by 2 full turns. At full height, switch from counting turns to leveling by measurement.

I also have the 919s, and recently removed the Daystars. The lift was too high in the rear. The 919s don't give much under static weight, so the lift is a solid 3". If you add the Daystars, it **COULD** give you unwanted strain on the rear driveline. Mine did. I removed the spacers and had GREAT results. It drives like stock with a full 7" (overall w/tire height) lift.

Hope this helps.

[Lizardmen3477]

Hmm awesome info guys I think this has swade me to go with the 919s now, and yea Marlin my shocks are stock and have 140k on em lol so I could prolly use some new ones. seems Avg price that I can find for the Rancho 9000Xls is about 110-120 for each one. Any one have a secret site that may be cheaper? And everyone gets their springs from Rocky-road.com right? ( Just trying to get the best deals )

[SilverBullet75]

For the Rancho Shocks I'm probably going to go to Sears when the time comes. Their warranty is excellent. I've heard of people blowing 1 shock and Sears replacing ALL of them for free.

As for the springs, I went to 4Wheel Parts. If you have a store nearby it's easier... but they do have a website for ordering.
http://www.4wheelparts.com/

The 919s are part number:
ARB2919 -- REAR COILS -- $149.99 (plus shipping to them $15): $178.35

They arrived in store within a week.
I ordered from Rocky Road a while back, but they were all on back order... for months. Cancelled and went with 4wheelparts.

[vt_maverick]

Piling onto rickshaw's review to avoid starting another thread...

This past weekend yellowgizmo99 and I installed the Daystar Spring Spacers on my VX. Last year I went to 265/60/18 tires on Borbet CW3 rims with a -2 offset, which pushed the tires just outside the wheel wells. An aggressive look for sure, but the reduced distance from tire to cladding worried me. Aside from looking more like a sports car than a bad-*** SUV, I was concerned that offroad articulation might cause the tires to rub the cladding. In addition, I added Tone's nerf bars a few years ago which caused me to lose about an inch of ground clearance.

So with all that in mind, I decided to do a very mild lift. Lots of members have reported problems related to tearing CVs when going to 3" or more, so I wanted to avoid something that drastic (in my mind at least). After reading rickshaw's review I decided to try out the Daystar Coil Spacers, which were only about $35 shipped. It took Billy and I a couple hours to get them installed (thanks again Billy!), mostly because neither one of us had done it before. Aside from the coil spacers we cranked the torsion bars by about 5-6 complete turns to raise the front end while maintaining the OEM rake/angle. (Useful information I found while searching on Saturday: 3-4 turns = about an inch of lift, and both bars need to be cranked clockwise to go up, counter clockwise to go down.) Judge for yourself, before and after pics appear below (sorry for the quality, I took them with my crappy cell phone camera) followed by ordering info. I'm VERY pleased with the outcome, as this is a very subtle, cheap, and useful mod.

Installed Picture:


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What to Buy:




Where to Buy:
http://www.google.com/search?q=Dayst...65f9b59bf7e6e1

[JAMAS]

Do you feel like that made the ride more comfortable by raising farther away from the stock bump stops?

[VX KAT]

Oh, good question JAMAS! Logic would seem to say yes, can't wait to hear.

Mav- it looks great, not too much, just perfect! You know what, I think (IMHO) it may be time to replace the amber lenses (turn & triangle)...the whiter lens would go better with your wheels & rack and give better symmetry. I know the triangle lenses from Klearz haven't been the best fit, but you can sand them down to fit better. mhill just did it, and put some black striping around the edge closest to the paint.

[vt_maverick]

Hard to say on the ride comfort, trimming the bump stops made such a huge difference that I was rarely hitting the stops before the lift. What's interesting is that a lot of members have reported better ride quality after their 3" lifts, but by cutting the stops and doing a 1.5" lift I've effectively created the same spacing without the additional lift and associated suspension geometry change.

I've debated going from amber to white so many times I couldn't even count. Maybe I can convince Billy to let me try out his clear triangle markers to judge the difference. For now I'm holding off because I'm planning on having my calipers spray painted orange at my first brake service (that's right ladies and gentlemen, 11 years on and I'm still on the original pads and rotors). Got to keep with the Virginia Tech theme.

[Triathlete]

And now you need bigger tires, then more lift, then...

...and so it begins!