CARBON FIBER HOOD INSERTS....20 Buyers needed!

[vt_maverick]

Maybe at high elevations, intercooling makes such a difference, as an already oxygen starved engine gets denser, oxygen richer, cool air.

I thought air was thinner at higher elevations?

Intercoolers are fairly cheap, and I know we have some engineers or just really knowledgeable members here that could come up with a system.

Maybe jdm_monkey would know? He's working on designing a turbo kit in his spare time, which I'm sure includes an intercooler.

[FlyingV77]

can they make a full set of CF cladding as well?

[mrtew]

can they make a full set of CF cladding as well?

Now we're talking!

[RallyDude]

Those would be extremely expensive. I don't see 20 of us to commit to that one. The molds are obviously way more complex.

[RallyDude]

You are right, air is thinner at high elevations. Cooling the air makes it denser, and therefore it has more oxygen. My point is, maybe this effect is more evident at high elevations?

[Ascinder]

I see your logic there, but the fact is that the air gets thinner before it gets cooler. Any benefits taper off pretty quickly. Otherwise you'd see piston driven prop planes flying a lot higher(like jet higher). Many old WWII fighters were supercharged and intercooled and it only got them so far. Also intercooling as a gas saver? I never heard of that one. From my understanding the denser air charge is used to allow the turbochargers compressed/heated air to cool down and become denser so more fuel could be burned. As far as the scoop/ no scoop argument. Has anyone thought about the consequences of all the miscellaneous debris that's going to end up in your engine bay? I would think an induction style would make a lot more sense from a functional/ease of use standpoint. Looks about as cool too.

[RallyDude]

I agree with a lot of what you're saying. You lose MPG as you go up in altitude. An intercooler does make the air denser, so I guess it would be comparable to driving at a lower elevation.

But I do agree, for me, it's not about driving conservatively. The intercooler provides more oxygen, so that I can use more skinny pedal for the turbo or supercharger. I think in and of itself, the intercooler provides more oxygen, and if used conservatively, would aid in MPG. I know some people that own Turbos on the 92x site, but drive it below boost, so they can run regular gas, and they do report very good gas mileage. To me, it sounds a little ridiculous. Kind of like buying full skid plates, but not wanting to take it off-road.

[RallyDude]

I'm guessing if tested, more hydrocarbons would come out of a NA vehicle compared to one outfitted with a IC. If the IC provides a more complete burn, you would expect better performance and better MPG. Before you decide to floor it anyway.

[WormGod]

Heck, I would drop the $$ for C/F cladding. Just to shave the weight. But ya, the issue is getting enough interest cause those molds would be pretty insane and not worth the time without enough inventory interest.

I would still be down for a C/F insert (another one), but I am probably in the minority since I want extraction, not induction.

[Ascinder]

Isn't an induction hood the same as an extraction hood? You do realize an induction hood isn't the one with a forward facing scoop right? An induction hood helps pull air out of the engine bay, not catch it and ram it in lke a scoop.

[WormGod]

I personally realize that but worded it like that since most here have always understood it that way (I'm an old dog here). Just so folks understand.

I have a "ram air" scoop (Ala WRX) currently, and it is useless. The older Evo 8-9 venting is pretty ideal for my application.

[vt_maverick]

I have a "ram air" scoop (Ala WRX) currently, and it is useless. The older Evo 8-9 venting is pretty ideal for my application.

Saw a G35 Coupe in LA outfitted with one of these type hoods, and the owner claimed it dropped the average temperature in the engine bay down by around 100 degrees. Probably would be great for guys with superchargers.

[joshi]

I have a quote from...

http://www.advancespeedshop.com/exte...FRFWagodPEZwRw


Carbon fiber Hood Insert...manufactured by Seibon.

I will send them an insert , they make a mold and do a run of 20.

Cost...approx $330 per....very competitive with OEM metal price.


Payment up front will be required...to cover my butt!

Please indicate via poll if SERIOUSLY interested.


jo

can they make a complete hood as well?

[Bob Barker]

For your left arm and first born I'm sure they could make any shape out of carbon fiber! But it's gonna be 'spensive! I looked into a cf hood for my Mach once, priced around $700, and that was a semi mass produced hood! Can't imagine the price tag for a one off hood!

[RallyDude]

100 degrees sounds like a lot, but it looks like that would be achieved as a combination of the large air dam and the hood. It does look cool. Good, the VX was starting to look too normal.

It would be nice if we could agree on something that was a performance mod rather than purely aesthetic. Weight savings would be nominal.

There are a number of manufacturers of reproduction hood tachs that were used by GM during the muscle car era. I wish there was a universal hood tach that was on the market. My first two cars were GTO's, and I always wanted one, but not too many were outfitted that way.