high mileage vs synthetic oil

[bentcipher]

My neighbor has a 1995 Ford Taurus - it's hitting like 385k - he uses Castrol GTX high mileage oil, every 2k miles religiously. It's a POS car but it runs like a champ!

[Gussie2000]

My neighbor has a 1995 Ford Taurus - it's hitting like 385k - he uses Castrol GTX high mileage oil, every 2k miles religiously. It's a POS car but it runs like a champ!

You are absolutely right,mobil 1 filter is the way to go,i don't play games with that stuff neither.

My VX is 560 miles away from new oil change & already bought my 6 pack bottle mobil 1 10w-30 with filter. The filter # is M 1104 for you guys who wanna give a try.

I'll make that few miles comes shorter,i'll be driving to binghampton (upstate NY) 380 miles round trip on friday morning to vist few friends & also take some pics of the rampage that took place at the inmigration helping center guys

[TheGanzman]

Is that Mobil 1 filter the "longer" variety? I read somewhere that you can upgrade to a longer filter; the one on my VX is like 3 inches long...

[twistedsymphony]

A VX forum member posted link to this study a while back, can't recall who it was, but it certainly gives you clearer understanding of the differences between oil filters and confirms there are big differences.

http://people.msoe.edu/~yoderw/oilfi...lterstudy.html

thats the same article I posted earlier in this thread :P

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is there a reason you all use 10W30/40 as opposed to the 5W30 that the owners manual specifies?

[Y33TREKker]

While I'm not sure what each of the specific abbreviations in the Typical Properties sections refers to, it does appear as if there are differences in the formulations of regular vs. high mileage oils offered by Mobil-1.

The Features - Advantages and Potential Benefits section also give brief laymens descriptions of what the formulation is intended to do.

Mobil 1 - Regular 10W-30 Synthetic

Mobil 1 - High Mileage 10W-30 & 10W-40 Synthetics

My $.02 on that filter study would be that the date of the study would also have to be considered (filter technology changes just like everything else), plus, not every filter in a filter companys' lineup is made by that same company. There are a few companies that make filters, and they put whatever label a second company that buys those filters for resale wants them to. Is it not curious that some of those filters look just like their competitors when taken apart? Basically, if you buy a cheap filter, you generally get what you pay for, but if you spring for a more expensive filter, (even by the same "company/manufacturer", you'll generally get a better product.

I think the main comparison between dino (regular) oils and synthetics is that while the viscosities may be listed as being the same, it's how each one flows at it's rated temperature extremes that is most important. We've all probably either added oil to or changed oil in an engine when the snow has been flying at some point, and seen how the pour-rate of a dino oil changes at those lower temps. Well that's also how it flows through an engine at those lower temps until it gets heated up. Synthetics don't have that problem since their viscosities are engineered to remain more constant through their rated temperature extremes, meaning that they simply flow better when cold, and don't get thinner/break-down as much when hot when compared to dino oils. As a result, they offer more consistent engine protection.

(That's also why a 10W-30 or 10W-40 synthetic can be used in place of a regular 5W-30 oil. With more and more vehicles using engines with overhead cam systems, etc, synthetics can get to all the places it needs to easier because of the more consistent flow rates).

[VX KAT]

Oops, my bad...since the link was different, I "assumed" it was different.

[psychos2]

I use carquest filters as they are made by Wix . shawn

[BeeVenom]

The one thing i became aware of is that the 'high mileage' oils tend to have additives that 'address' your oil seals. In other words, stuff in it that helps swell up 'old' seals and gaskets thus helping to prevent drying out gaskets and minimizing oil leaks. Other than that, don't know what else is different about them.

[Cobrajet]

Is that Mobil 1 filter the "longer" variety? I read somewhere that you can upgrade to a longer filter; the one on my VX is like 3 inches long...

I've used Mobil1 M1-104 filters since my first oil change, and I've now got 117,500 on my VX. I did a Google search a few minutes ago and found a thread on the Acura MDX site where a guy says he was able to install the longer M1-105 filter on his MDX. I've got my last M1-104 sitting on the shelf, so I may try to find an M1-105 for my 120K tuneup.

[etlsport]

I've used Mobil1 M1-104 filters since my first oil change, and I've now got 117,500 on my VX. I did a Google search a few minutes ago and found a thread on the Acura MDX site where a guy says he was able to install the longer M1-105 filter on his MDX. I've got my last M1-104 sitting on the shelf, so I may try to find an M1-105 for my 120K tuneup.

cool! def report how that goes.. the M1-104 filter is so hard to find around here since its such a common filter.. my local advanced was out of stock for like 2 weeks during their last mobil1 oil change special

[newthings]

FROM AN EDMONDS BLOG ON ULTIMATE AWD --

Please be advised that Castrol Syntec 5W-30 DOES NOT meet the necessary oil specifications required for any BMW built since at least the late 1990s. Running that oil is a recipe for a sludged engine and a refusal from your dealership/BMW for warranty repairs if/when the engine fails. The only Castrol Syntec that meets the BMW LongLife-98 and LongLife-01 oil specifications (equired for every gasoline powered BMW sold this decade is Syntec 0W-30. That said, you can buy a Castrol produced oil under the BMW label from your dealership that is in fact a 5W-30, but make no mistake, that is NOT the same oil as is in the Castrol Syntec 5W-30 bottle.

For all who buy their own oil, the only two generally available LL-01 oils sold here in the U.S. are Mobil 1 0W-40 and Castrol Syntec 0W-30.

Best regards,
Shipo

[Med!c]

so, just wondering.. Are the 3.5L v6 used in the vehi the same ones used in the troopers? do most of you guys have oil burning problems?

[TheGanzman]

I've used Mobil1 M1-104 filters since my first oil change, and I've now got 117,500 on my VX. I did a Google search a few minutes ago and found a thread on the Acura MDX site where a guy says he was able to install the longer M1-105 filter on his MDX. I've got my last M1-104 sitting on the shelf, so I may try to find an M1-105 for my 120K tuneup.

Just as an FYI - I just did my first oil change on my 60K mile VX, and installed the M1-105 filter (also filled up with slightly over 5 quarts of Mobil 1 10W-30 Full Synthetic). Seems to be fine, with no leaks, though the "O-Ring" style gasket and larger diameter concerned me initially. Also, the larger diameter puts the filter w/in 1/4" of the harmonic balancer; I don't think this will be a problem though, since even if the engine "torqued" upon heavy acceleration, it SHOULD torque AWAY from the filter. Has anyone else gone to the larger Mobil 1 M1-105 filter yet?

[circmand]

im now over 80k miles.. my vx is growing up so fast!

heres my question.. my last 40k have been run with mobil1 full synthetic almost exclusively.. (5w30 and 10w30 depending on season/availability) but now im wondering if it would be better to switch to high mileage formulas or to just stick with regular synthetic.. i havent seen a high mileage specific synthetic.. anyone make one of them?

and i always run a mobil1 filter (except this last change, i got a K&N oil filter at a great price)

Makes a synthetic for high mileage

[BeeVenom]

I'm still using Castrol Syntec, but the 0w30 'europeon formula' since it's supposed to be a 'group 4' synthetic. Used 10w30 syntec up til a couple years ago. Since i change my oil so often (try to stay close to 2500 miles each time) I suppose it doesn't really matter. Have only used the Mobil 1 filter too. The Mobil M-105 filter fits the VX and is a little longer than the one originally spec'd for it, the M-104. As expensive as oil can be, it's still cheap in mho. Scott