Any of you guys carry?

[Ldub]

I have a concealed weapon permit ,but the gun I have now is to big to carry. It is a ruger 44 magnum single action revolver. It was my dads pistol.I personally like the Glock G19 9mm I used to have in Fl. If I had to choose right now I would choose the G26 "Baby" Glock 9mm. shawn

I'll have to agree with Shawn, I'll be a Glock fanboy till' they pry my cold dead fingers from it's empty, & still smoking frame...

[nocturnalVX]

I'll have to agree with Shawn, I'll be a Glock fanboy till' they pry my cold dead fingers from it's empty, & still smoking frame...

I would have sworn that Larry's response would be about "carrying", not packing. As in, "Hey Dude! Are you carrying?" Learn something new everyday.

[Ldub]

I would have sworn that Larry's response would be about "carrying", not packing. As in, "Hey Dude! Are you carrying?" Learn something new everyday.

Oh, how you DO make me laugh brother Gill...

[VXIRONwoMAN]

After taking various martial arts and self defense courses (Boxing, Judo, Muay Thai, BJJ, Escrima, Close Quarters Combat, etc.), I have learned that I can be more dangerous than any weapon out there, no matter how big the opponent. I have dropped 220+ pound men. These were the trainers I took down... No Weapons... all Tactic!




Your weapon is only good if you can keep it in your hands. In Chicago, hand guns are not legal PERIOD! Though a shotgun could be fun to carry around the city... my arms would get tired. I have considered getting my CWC before, but found that the training I would use most is in tactical self defense.

Wanna wrassle???

[pbkid]

really cece??

9 years tang soo do

3 years kung fu

1 year jujitsu

[crotchrocket]

WTF do you need to carry a hand gun around?? Are things really that bad over there? Or is it the whole nuclear weapon thing, if everyone has one they won't get used?? Or do you just shoot the **** out of each other?

[CrnCnn]

Boxing, Judo, Muay Thai, BJJ, Escrima, Close Quarters Combat, etc.

really cece??

9 years tang soo do

3 years kung fu

1 year jujitsu

Man I am a lazy fool. I want to take classes but am two things, Shy(CHICKEN) and broke.

Wanna wrassle???

Yes. But I think you would hurt me.

[WiSDoM]

Thanks for the input guys. Where I live there have been a few home invasion. One of my families friends happen to be one of the victims, he was stabbed a couple of times and had all his front teeth kicked in. Not real sure if a gun would have helped out in his case, because the man broke in knowing our friend was home. He awoke to being stabbed and then the struggle ensued.
I have rifles for hunting and studied jujitsu for 3 years when I was in my twenties, but now with my back problems not so sure about my physical stability when it comes to hand to hand. I think it is important to explore all your options when it comes to protecting yourself and your family.
And for you English guys, I have a couple of English friends and they have more guns than anyone know. My friend Ned(English)told me the first thing he bought when he moved to the state was 44Mag like dirty Harry. Why I asked and he reply "Bescause I could.". Which at the time struck me really funny because my boy Ned was not right in the head and anyone lookin at Ned for the first time would see i. So to mess with Ned you would have to be alittle touched.

Thanks again for the input . I have much thinking to do. I will be taking a concealed weapons training class, but they recommend you use your own weapon. Here in Maine you need to have had weapons training to get a conceal permit.

[nfpgasmask]

Now that I leave in Reno, I was thinking of getting my concealed permit, but I don't really feel the need to carry around town on a daily basis. I generally stay away from 'bad areas' and here in Reno they really aren't any, compared to when I lived in Chicago.

I open carry when I am out in the foot hills or camping way out in the middle of nowhere. I have run across some VERY STRANGE people out there, and believe me, the last thing I want is to get into a fire-fight in the middle of nowhere, but I also don't want to be forced to 'squeal like a pig'. I know, I know, I'm paranoid, watch to many movies, whatever.

The bottom line is that guns are made to kill, period. The argument for or against them is going to be here forever, no matter which side wins. Personally, I believe in my right to bear arms for multiple reasons. First of all, I enjoy shooting. Second, if this country ever 'implodes' (again, call me paranoid, but it is possible), I don't wanna be caught with my pants down. And third, there are way too many wack-jobs out there, and if someone ever enters my home and threatens my family, I am not going to let them violate my space without a fight. Also, I think guns are a survival tool. I don't hunt, nor do I believe in shooting defenseless animals, but if I was ever stranded and needed to eat, having a .22 to take rabbits with is not a bad idea. Aside from the recreational enjoyment I get from shooting, using a gun in a lethal manner is an ABSOLUTE LAST RESORT that I hope I NEVER come to in my lifetime.

Jo, you are correct. The stats are 100% there. But remember, in England (correct me if I am wrong) the regular police do not pack heat either, as far as I know, so the playing field is level. I honestly think that if our government disarms us, then we will be defenseless against further tyranny, and I simply do not have enough trust at this point. Furthermore, the problem in this country is that even if the guns were outlawed, there are already so many in circulation, legally and illegally, we will be stuck with another Prohibition type scenario. Illegal trafficking and gun crimes would sky rocket. Our jails are already overcrowded.

I also think the laws should be 100% jurisdictional and not managed federally. Look at LA, Chicago, NY. There are WAY too many people packed into WAY to little space. Throw guns in the mix and its a recipe for disaster. There definitely needs to be regulations for big municipalities. But in rural areas and small towns, I simply do not see the need for strict gun control.

As I have said before, I would rather live in a slightly dangerous FREE country, than a completely safe and sterile country that is absolutely no fun. And I am not saying that guns are the only fun you can have, but when they take one freedom (and that freedom has everything to do with fighting back) they will take more of our freedoms, and sooner or later, you ain't gonna be wheeling NO WHERE. The most fun you will have will be eating McDonalds and watching American Idol. Trust me, our government has changed into something unrecognizable to most. They would much rather we all sit fat and happy paying for our $400,000 homes and filling up our SUVs and keeping our little mouths shut. Slavery is only a few laws away. Hell, we are practically there now. How many of you out there are already slaves to your debt?? Sure, it was your choice, but the system is setup that way...

OK, I will shut the hell up with all that. To stay on topic, I have always heard that .40 is the smallest caliber one should carry considering stopping power. IMO, if you carry a gun, you should absolutely NEVER take it out unless you intend to pull the trigger. Again, this goes back to that ABSOLUTE LAST RESORT thing. I think anyone with half a brain cell understands that if you pull that trigger, your life (if you still have it) will never be the same afterwards, regardless if you are right or wrong in doing so.

Bart

[pbkid]

Thanks for the input guys. Where I live there have been a few home invasion. One of my families friends happen to be one of the victims, he was stabbed a couple of times and had all his front teeth kicked in. Not real sure if a gun would have helped out in his case, because the man broke in knowing our friend was home. He awoke to being stabbed and then the struggle ensued.
I have rifles for hunting and studied jujitsu for 3 years when I was in my twenties, but now with my back problems not so sure about my physical stability when it comes to hand to hand. I think it is important to explore all your options when it comes to protecting yourself and your family.
And for you English guys, I have a couple of English friends and they have more guns than anyone know. My friend Ned(English)told me the first thing he bought when he moved to the state was 44Mag like dirty Harry. Why I asked and he reply "Bescause I could.". Which at the time struck me really funny because my boy Ned was not right in the head and anyone lookin at Ned for the first time would see i. So to mess with Ned you would have to be alittle touched.

Thanks again for the input . I have much thinking to do. I will be taking a concealed weapons training class, but they recommend you use your own weapon. Here in Maine you need to have had weapons training to get a conceal permit.

two things-
1- i think you are looking at a concealed weapons permit wrongly...you DO NOT need a concealed permit to keep a weapon in your own home! if your truely worried about home invasion buy some guns and keep em hidden around your home (no need to have a permit)

2- a gun is NOT going to help you at 'teeth kicking in' range....if they are that close to you, there is no way that you are going to be able to get your gun and get it all ready to go...buy a TASER, click a button, drop someone really quick (refer to riff raff, he explained how well they work at close range)

if you guys wanna discuss what type of guns everyone likes, there was a thread about 3 or 4 months ago about guns in general...as pertaining to the concealed permit, it sounds like you dont need one for your purposes..

[VehiGAZ]

WTF do you need to carry a hand gun around?? Are things really that bad over there? Or is it the whole nuclear weapon thing, if everyone has one they won't get used?? Or do you just shoot the **** out of each other?

Oh, settle down there across the pond! Ya'll know what kind of rednecks we are here in the US! This should not be news...

Between the cash and the drunks, anyone who owns a bar (like Riff Raff) needs to protect themselves as a matter of course. Ditto for a LOT of other professions - so yes, in some ways, things CAN BE that bad, depending one one's circumstances.

But most people that carry guns in the US don't need to - they do it just because they want to or because they can't very well distinguish between what they hear on the news and what happens in their life. I tried concealed carrying a couple of times when I lived in a more firearm-friendly state, and I did not care for how it felt - it was like I was deceiving everyone around me, including my good friends.

[nfpgasmask]

Oh, settle down there across the pond! Ya'll know what kind of rednecks we are here in the US! This should not be news...

Hey now, speak for yourself! We're not all rednecks over here!! I really hate the stigma that comes with gun ownership. Yes, I have guns. But that doesn't mean I am some uneducated goober. It doesn't mean I hunt and kill defenseless animals. It doesn't mean I am a "gun nut". I'm sure I am a little "off" compared to most people, but....

Bart

[VehiGAZ]

I'll have to agree with Shawn, I'll be a Glock fanboy till' they pry my cold dead fingers from it's empty, & still smoking frame...

You forgot to add a descriptor in there... it should be: "from it's empty, JAMMED, and still-smoking frame..."

Yeah, I know what I just started. But I don't think much of Glocks. Whether it's at the range or in the news (like the guy who just shot the priest at the church) when I hear of a pistol jamming, it's almost always a Glock. Notice how most po-po depts don't use them anymore?

I'm a Heckler & Koch man, myself. I have an H&K USP .40 compact. A good carry pistol, but I don't carry. Buy quality if you're going to rely on a pistol for your safety.

Riff Raff's advice seems very solid to me, but his needs are different than most people's...

[nfpgasmask]

You forgot to add a descriptor in there... it should be: "from it's empty, JAMMED, and still-smoking frame..."

Yeah, I know what I just started. But I don't think much of Glocks. Whether it's at the range or in the news (like the guy who just shot the priest at the church) when I hear of a pistol jamming, it's almost always a Glock. Notice how most po-po depts don't use them anymore?

I'm a Heckler & Koch man, myself. I have an H&K USP .40 compact. A good carry pistol, but I don't carry. Buy quality if you're going to rely on a pistol for your safety.

Riff Raff's advice seems very solid to me, but his needs are different than most people's...

Funny, I have never had any problems with Glock. I don't personally own one, but I have a friend who has a very old G17, and man, he has probably put 3000 rounds of 9mm through it flawlessly. The thing I do not like about Glock is the look and feel. IMO, they are ugly as far as guns go, and I really don't care for the grip of a Glock. That said, I once had a H&K USP .45 and it was like holding a 2x4 in your hand. Just an absolutely terrible grip. I have a FN P9 and it is one nice piece. FN makes a quality gun as well as Walther. The Walther P9 and P22 have REALLY nice grips, like holding a stick of warm butter in your hand.

Bart

[VehiGAZ]

That said, I once had a H&K USP .45 and it was like holding a 2x4 in your hand. Just an absolutely terrible grip.

Beauty is in the hand of the gun-holder... I tried Glocks, Rugers, S&W's, Berettas, etc. and never found one that seemed to properly fit my hand. When I first picked up an HK USP .40 at a gun show in MO, I knew that was the one. The tang fit my hand like no other ever had. It took a couple of years, but I ended up getting one.

As for Glocks - YMMV! I know a lot of people swear by them, and there are plenty of cases of flawless operation for thousands of rounds, but I've also seen too many of them jam (and really, ONE is too many!). At my cousin's bachelor party, two guys brought their Glocks (a 9 mm and a .40) to the firing range where we started the day (and oh, waht a day that was!), and BOTH of them jammed up. WTF?!?! I find that completely unacceptable - if I owned a gun that jammed even once, I'd sell it.