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    OK... I have a new Code
    P0507 - IDLE HIGHER THAN EXPECTED

    Atleast this one the symptoms are true... Idle is too high

    I replaced all my plugs, and my Fuel Filter, and now my Misfire code went away (atleast for now) And I'm not having my "Lean Conditions" codes.

    I cleaned my IAC, checked all my connections (vacuum and electrical to MAF, EGR IAC etc.) But I'm not seeing anything.

    The Throttle is closed, so it's not a cable or pedal adjustment that got messed up.

    I ran through different readings on my Scanguage, and one think that came up was my TPS isn't registering a reading at all. I'm not sure that it does on our vehicles anyway, but if someone could confirm that would be great.

    Anyone know how much a TPS is for our vehicles?

    Thanks for all your help!!

    Richie

    The manual says use the Tech 2 for troubleshooting... Anyone want to lend me one
    But it looks like the only culprits are:
    vacuum leak, or PCV (I just did PCV, and did the starter fluid test for leaks, found none)
    Or the IAC solenoid itself.
    Last edited by taylorRichie : 01/11/2009 at 06:16 PM

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    Quote Originally Posted by taylorRichie View Post
    OK... I have a new Code
    P0507 - IDLE HIGHER THAN EXPECTED

    Atleast this one the symptoms are true... Idle is too high
    What is your VX idling at now? Is it still around 2500 rpm or is it alot closer to normal...say 50 rpms over normal?
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    my TPS always shows up on the scangauge.. ill get some normal readings tomorrow for different situations
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    Quote Originally Posted by etlsport View Post
    my TPS always shows up on the scangauge
    I'm thinking that if his idle was just out of range (i.e. 50+rpm) it would be the IAC that was bad...but, if it is WAY out of range (alot more than 50+) & not caused by a vacuum leak...and the Throttle Position Sensor isn't showing on the scangauge...I'd be steering in that direction------>(TPS).


    I had a car in the past that would kick the code of "idle higher than expected" but was only idling in excess of 50 rpm over the normal idle...it was the IAC that was bad in that case.

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    It's still idling between 2500 - 3000. I can't find a vacuum leak anywhere, and I used the start fluid method. And carefully examined all of my hoses and fittings...

    Is there a way to use a boost/vacuum gauge to determine if there's a leak? ie, the vacuum PSI at a given RPM?

    My Scangauge doesn't return anything when I switch to TPS, it only shows

    __TPS with nothing to the left of it.

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    Mine idles in the same range from a fresh startup. It is even sneaky at times and decides to randomly do it while driving, but only when I let off the gas to come to a stop. Causes me to have to leave a longer distance between me and the car in front of me, heh. It will buck forward as I step on the brake. Very rare but I don't need to hit someone in front of me.

    I have been playing around with ideas for a few months now and STILL have yet to do anything about it. I only just got a new battery this weekend to get it back on the road after a couple months, so I will be back on the case now. I have only thrown 171 and 174 previously. The funny thing is, if I clear the codes without fixing them, it will run fine for about a week. Then, the issue comes back and the codes appear again. I have concluded that a new MAF, FPR, and EGR should be on my list of things to do. I cleaned the MAF several times, but the screen isn't exactly pristine anymore. And I never did replace the FPR after the my S/C install, so that won't hurt. My EGR has been cleaned to the bone and there is no getting it any cleaner, and it is a slight disaster. Definitely won't hurt. I do not think I am gonna touch the O2 sensors unless it is last resort time. There is already a laundry list of money to be spent.
    Gary Noonan
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    Quote Originally Posted by taylorRichie View Post
    __TPS with nothing to the left of it.
    I am pretty sure the VX does not show this. I will check my scan guage on lunch to verify.

    Good luck getting her fixed up.

    Bart

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