Window issue...AGAIN, sorry....Need some advice?

[SomeBeach]

"what is the first thing I should try to correct my problem?"

UUMMM - invent a time machine & go back 2 weekends so that you can attend my window fixin party.

I have an extra bracket (don't ask) if you only need to fix one window.

Hey Tom
I wish I had gone to that window fixin party but hd been sick and didn't feel like the drive. I hope to be at the next party you have

[tom4bren]

Understandable. Lemme know if there is any way I can be of help.

[CSTYLES]

I want to take this chance to thank Tom 4 putting together the meet and fixin' party.

I was hesitant to put the windows down, since I've had mine "repaired" before with little effect, so I waited almost a week. My driver side goes up and down with no problem. The passenger side was zipping out somewhere mid track. I noticed when Tom had the door apart that the center runner was hopping the track.

Well, I finally got in there again yesterday and used the old washers trick (don't know who to credit for this fix). I slipped a couple washers between the brackets and the actuator (I believe this is what they are called?) and it pushed whole set-up inward. This might be putting more pressure on the glass, but mine were never binding really. I keep my tracks generously lubed. The passenger side now goes straight up and down, no wiggle either way.

[tom4bren]

My window fix ... didn't. I'll have to try this.

[twistedsymphony]

I Think if some of you look closely you'll see that the white Nylon(not Plastic) guides are worn causing the glass to tilt forward. Since everything was originally designed to go straight up and down, when the glass tilts forward it binds up. All this "cut off weather striping and rubber gasket" is unnecessary!. If you take off the inner door panel and watch those white Nylon tabs you will see what I mean. Operate the window from "down to up" position and you will see the glass pressing against the inner front of the nylon brackets and there is a space behind the glass and the inner "back" side of the bracket. If you then pull the window to stand up perfectly vertical the glass will now come in contact with the inner back of the bracket and there is a space in the inner front of the bracket,,caused by wear and tear. So obviously if the space was not there the window would be held in a perfectly strainght vertical position and the window slides perfectly with no binding.
I believe I have a very simple fix that is almost Free!. Get a nylon zip tie that is the width (Thickness of the glass) and insert it into the space on the inner front of the bracket to take up the "play". I figured this out conceptually a while ago but ill health and lousey weather prevented me from actually making the fix.
Maybe some one in the group with a garage or warmer weather could try this fix out and tell me if it works. It should!
God luck guys!

my passenger's side window has always worked flawlessly, the drivers side has always been a little slow to go up and tiled forward, and more recently it will stop dead half way up unless I grab it and tilt it back.

I widened and lubricated the front track and it only improved it ever so slightly but nothing worth a damn.

I noticed the same thing as above... I think it has nothing to do with the front and rear rubber tracks and everything to do with the center guide...

I can push DOWN on the top of the window near the back and the window will roll up flawless every time... as long as you can prevent it from tilting you can have a window that goes up and down properly.

easing the pressure on the front track only treats the symptom... the cause is the fact that window is allowed to tilt at all.

looking at my well working passenger's side window the guides are snug against the center track... on my drivers side the front guide is warn down a fair amount.

the window motor puts more pressure up on the back than it does in the front which will naturally make the window want to tilt forward, the center track is what keeps it from tilting, the front and rear rubber guides are just to protect and seal the window away from the metal in the door... when the center guide isn't working they exacerbate the problem but I don't think they're the root cause.

I'm going to try the zip tie method sometime this week and see if it works.

[blujfan9293]

not a fix, but a peripheral band-aid--I bought weather tec rain/wind guards from JC Whitney that pop in/out-bonus is if window doesn't go all the way up while driving (new Proton needs a fix) i can leave it cracked til I can do the 2 handed fix at a stop.

plus they look sharp and I can crack the windows in park so it doesn't bake inside.