Post of all Rims and Tires out there!

[Jolly Roger VX'er]

Here is a chart that might simplify the whole offset to backspacing thing:

From the chart if your rims are +12mm offset and 4.5" backspacing then your rims would be 7" wide, but that does not sound right either, how were you measuring your backspacing or were you given those numbers?

Thank you for a very clear, concise, well-written explanation to the subject at hand! kudo's. Very good chart which should come in handy for alot of VX'ers! (myself included!)

What prompted me to post (earlier) was the implication that some of the posted offset info was wrong (possibly mine being one of them.) So I spoke up mainly to draw attention to the fact that I knew my info (+12mm) was correct.

The backspacing info I gave (4.5") was in error (actually 5"); but, hopefully I covered my butt with the ole IIRC

Here is the wheel specs for my particular wheel for demo: (#614-6883)

(Part Number) - Size - Offset - Backspacing - (Bolt Circle)
(614-7882) - 17x8 - 0 - 4 1/2 - (8x6 1/2)
(614-7875) - 17x8 - 12 - 5 - (5x5 1/2)
(614-7870) - 17x8 - 12 - 4 1/2 - (8x170mm)
(614-7838) - 17x8 - 12 - 5 - (6x5 1/2)
(614-6882) - 16x8 - 0 - 4 1/2 - (8x6 1/2)
(614-6870) - 16x8 - 0 - 4 1/2 - (8x170mm)
(614-6885) - 16x8 - 0 - 4 1/2 - (5x5 1/2)
(614-6883) - 16x8 - 12 - 5 - (6x5 1/2)
(614-6873) - 16x8 - 12 - 5 - (5x5)
(614-6838) - 16x8 - 12 - 5 - (5x5 1/2)
(614-6835) - 16x8 - 0 - 4 1/2 - (5x135mm)
(614-5873) - 15x8 - (-19) - 3 3/4 - (5x5)
(614-5865) - 15x8 - (-19) - 3 3/4 - (5x4 1/2)

http://4wheelonline.com/Products.asp...ProductId=6995

Also, just an FYI for newbie wheel shoppers; check out hub (bore) dimensions(diameter) before buying as this has burned previous VX'ers in the past! (I do not recall the actual dimension for our hubs.)

[taylorRichie]

What prompted me to post (earlier) was the implication that some of the posted offset info was wrong (possibly mine being one of them.) So I spoke up mainly to draw attention to the fact that I knew my info (+12mm) was correct.

Also, just an FYI for newbie wheel shoppers; check out hub (bore) dimensions(diameter) before buying as this has burned previous VX'ers in the past! (I do not recall the actual dimension for our hubs.)

Yours were never in question... only the "0" or "Negative" offset wheels that look "normal" 0 or negative would stick out far no matter how you slice it

I believe our center bore is 100mm, but most wheels (mine included) come in a 108mm center bore. (for GMs)

[rickshaw]

CoastieCosta567
Rims are (need more info)
Tires are (need more info)
(Lifted) 919's old man emu springs
CoastieCosta567's Build Up Thread

Same VX with Silver Wheels

Rims are (need more info)
Tires are (need more info)
(Lifted) 919's old man emu springs
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don moore
Rims are (need more info)
Tires are Yokohama Geolander A/T (need size info)
(Stock height)
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Triathlete
Rims are (need more info)
Tires are Goodyear Wrangler MTR (need size info)
(Lifted) OME 912 springs, ball joint flip, and torsion crank
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iamjacksadrenalgland
Rims are Enkei RT-6 18x8.5
Tires are Nitto Terra Grapplers 285/60/18 (Diameter 31.38 in)
(Stock height)
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Eric Psolla
Rims are ASA TRS 16x8
Tires are 255/70/18 Bridgestone Winter Duelers DM-Z2 (Diameter 32.1 in)
(Stock height)
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ericjimenez
Rims are (need more info)
Tires are 305/45/22 (Diameter 32.8 in)
(Stock height)
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GOVEHIX
Rims are 20'' (need more info)
Tires are (need more info)
(Stock height)
GOVEHIX's Wheels Thread
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Ascinder
Rims are Mega 835 20" Alloy
Tires are Nitto Dune Grapplers 285/55 R20 (32.3" diameter)
(Lifted) Diff drop brackets, Ball joint flip, Re-indexed front suspension to 4" of lift, Nitrided steel spring jacks in the rear for 4" of lift, Aisin Locking front hubs
Ascinder's Build Up Thread
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Ron
Rims are Silver 18x8 Borbet CW3
Tires are Yokohama AVS (need size info)
(Stock height)

Same VX with Different Wheels

Rims are 16X8
Tires are Bridgestone Dueler A/T Revo's 265-70-r16 (30.6" diameter)
(Stock height)
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Bantan
Rims are KMC Thunder 20x9
Tires are (need more info)
(Stock height)
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BBVX
Rims are (need more info)
Tires are BFGoodrich Mud-Terrain T/A KM 33x10.5x15
(Lifted)
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VXMAN
Rims are 17x8 ASA TRS
Tires are (need more info)
(Stock height)

Same VX with Lift and Mud tires

crager34
Rims are 17x8 ASA TRS
Tires are BFGoodrich Mud-Terrain T/A KM 255/75/17 (Diameter 31.7 in)
(Lifted) 2.5"
Formerly VXMAN's VX
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Cyn
Rims are (need more info)
Tires are (need more info)
(Stock height)
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patrick cooper
Rims are 16x8
Tires are Simex Jungle Trekkers 285/85/16
(Lifted)
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Medman
Rims are (need more info)
Tires are (need more info)
(Lifted)

Same VX with Different Wheels and Tires

Rims are (need more info)
Tires are Pro Comp (need size info)
(Lifted)
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thedutchguy
Rims are Stilauto offroad3 (need size info)
Tires are (need more info)
(Stock height)
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[nfpgasmask]

Yours were never in question... only the "0" or "Negative" offset wheels that look "normal" 0 or negative would stick out far no matter how you slice it

The only thing I can say, is the the Chambers myself and a few other VXers have are a 0 offset with 4.5" backspacing and the tires/wheels do not stick out that far at all. IMO, the 0 offset pushes the look out just right. They look perfect.

Bart

[WormGod]

The only thing I can say, is the the Chambers myself and a few other VXers have are a 0 offset with 4.5" backspacing and the tires/wheels do not stick out that far at all. IMO, the 0 offset pushes the look out just right. They look perfect.

Bart

Amen to that. I love my stance. They protrude but it is very tasteful IMHO. One reason I was so determined NOT to lift. Didn't want that extra well space to take away from it.

[CrnCnn]

Amen to that. I love my stance. They protrude but it is very tasteful IMHO. One reason I was so determined NOT to lift. Didn't want that extra well space to take away from it.

Yeah the open space in mine really bothers me but its tough saving money for new tires, especially ones I want(that’s the hard part soo many decisions).

[LittleBeast]

The only thing I can say, is the the Chambers myself and a few other VXers have are a 0 offset with 4.5" backspacing and the tires/wheels do not stick out that far at all. IMO, the 0 offset pushes the look out just right. They look perfect.

Bart

Once again though guys, a 0 offset on a 8" wide rim with 11-11.5" wide tires looks a TON different than a 0 offset 8.5"-9" wide rim with 12.5" wide tires. Especially when you have the Mudd Grapplers that if you take a tape measure to are actually 12.5" wide from outside of tire to inside of tire (I checked yesterday, lol). Basically my +15mm offset rims and 12.5" tires actually stick out FURTHER from the cladding than your 0 offset, just because of the other variables, as I have stated before my personal opinion is anything around 1.5"-2" of tire sticking out from the fender looks awesome, and I would say both you and Wormgod are in that ballpark. And the width of your respected tires is 265(10.5"), and 285(11.25") and add to that Wormgod's rims are a full .5" larger than yours and you can see the difference between you two in the pictures, now imagine a 12.5" tire on top of that, in fact a full 1.25"(.75" on each side) more hanging off the rim than Wormgod's tires and a full 2"(1" on each side) more than your tires and you can see why a 12.5" wide tire on a 8.5" rim with 0 offset would look way different than what you guys are running, and in my opinion get into the "wow something is not quite right there" area. But yeah 0 offset on an 8-8.5" rim with a 11" tire looks just right (as far as offset goes). But when thinking of what offset you need for the look you are going for the width of the tire and rim are huge factors that should be decided on before deciding on offset/backspacing.

[nfpgasmask]

Once again though guys, a 0 offset on a 8" wide rim with 11-11.5" wide tires looks a TON different than a 0 offset 8.5"-9" wide rim with 12.5" wide tires. Especially when you have the Mudd Grapplers that if you take a tape measure to are actually 12.5" wide from outside of tire to inside of tire (I checked yesterday, lol). Basically my +15mm offset rims and 12.5" tires actually stick out FURTHER from the cladding than your 0 offset, just because of the other variables, as I have stated before my personal opinion is anything around 1.5"-2" of tire sticking out from the fender looks awesome, and I would say both you and Wormgod are in that ballpark. And the width of your respected tires is 265(10.5"), and 285(11.25") and add to that Wormgod's rims are a full .5" larger than yours and you can see the difference between you two in the pictures, now imagine a 12.5" tire on top of that, in fact a full 1.25"(.75" on each side) more hanging off the rim than Wormgod's tires and a full 2"(1" on each side) more than your tires and you can see why a 12.5" wide tire on a 8.5" rim with 0 offset would look way different than what you guys are running, and in my opinion get into the "wow something is not quite right there" area. But yeah 0 offset on an 8-8.5" rim with a 11" tire looks just right (as far as offset goes). But when thinking of what offset you need for the look you are going for the width of the tire and rim are huge factors that should be decided on before deciding on offset/backspacing.

I agree, wasn't trying to argue or anything, just saying I love my rim/tire combo.

Bart

[LittleBeast]

I agree, wasn't trying to argue or anything, just saying I love my rim/tire combo.

Bart

I know, I agreed with you, but I just used way too many words

Oh and I love the Mudd Grapplers and all, but I am loving Patrick Cooper's tires a little more now, anyone have any idea what they are?

[pbkid]

I know, I agreed with you, but I just used way too many words

Oh and I love the Mudd Grapplers and all, but I am loving Patrick Cooper's tires a little more now, anyone have any idea what they are?

agreed, those things are sick lol....

i love the line-x'ed look too....

[ZEUS]

Oh and I love the Mudd Grapplers and all, but I am loving Patrick Cooper's tires a little more now, anyone have any idea what they are?

Here ya go: http://21st-century-tires.com/simex/suvspecs.html

Triathlete showed me this link cuz I fell in love with those tires too...

[WormGod]

....and I would say both you and Wormgod are in that ballpark. And the width of your respected tires is 265(10.5"), and 285(11.25") and add to that Wormgod's rims are a full .5" larger than yours and you can see the difference between you two in the pictures, now imagine a 12.5" tire on top of that, in fact a full 1.25"(.75" on each side) more hanging off the rim than Wormgod's tires and a full 2"(1" on each side) more than your tires and you can see why a 12.5" wide tire on a 8.5" rim with 0 offset would look way different than what you guys are running, and in my opinion get into the "wow something is not quite right there" area. But yeah 0 offset on an 8-8.5" rim with a 11" tire looks just right (as far as offset goes). But when thinking of what offset you need for the look you are going for the width of the tire and rim are huge factors that should be decided on before deciding on offset/backspacing.

It's a matter of "getting it just the way you want it". It not only just a matter of just what will work, but, what will you "like". I ran on the stockers with 285/60s for about a year before my 8.5s. Visually, I hated it. If you are gonna have a lot of rubber in your wells, you may as well make it count. My original plan was to get some larger rims and tires and lift. I even got the rear springs. However, after the wheel and tire mount, I was sold without the lift. Hell, I have had that pair of springs in my garage for about 4-5 years now, heh.

As for going wider than 11" or so on an 8.5', that is a hell of a task. I tire mounted in a previous life and any tire more than 2" wider than a wheel is not only a b|tch to mount, but not very savory for daily road use. Visually, you are right. That is where you come to the "wow something is not quite right there".

Regardless of whatever route anyone takes, doing some research and asking questions is needed. We have had too many members here buy wheels and/or tires just come to find out they aren't gonna work or they don't look "quite right". This thread should end up getting cleaned up and getting stickied eventually.

[uncle_asa]

Skad Triton Diamond R16 J7 D109.7
Cooper Discoverer STT 265/75R16


Skad Triton Selena R16 J7 D109.7
Bridgestone Ice Cruiser 5000 245/70R16

Rims manufacturer web site: http://www.skad.ru.

[TenPercenter]

Skad Triton Diamond R16 J7 D109.7
Cooper Discoverer STT 265/75R16

Lifted or not lifted? (I'm trying to figure out the best I can do without lifting, and with little to no trimming)

[Jolly Roger VX'er]

I believe our center bore is 100mm, but most wheels (mine included) come in a 108mm center bore. (for GMs)

Just wanted to post this thread that deals with the center bore issue amongst other things that can go wrong on custom wheels.

http://www.vehicross.info/forums/showthread.php?t=5118