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    Thinking about these bilstien shocks...

    http://www.eshocks.com/bil_veh.asp?M...ubChar=Q&Spec=

    I have read some posts and am thinkin of getting the B46-1738-H2 for the front and the B46-1739-H1 for the back....

    opinions???

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    I wouldn’t get new shocks unless the ones that are on it are bad or you’re doing a lift. The stock shocks are better then most of the aftermarket replacements. If you’re trying to soften the ride you’ll lose some of the high speed off road grip that the VX is famous for.
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    how about replacng the shocks... i found these on ebay...


    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/KYB-4...Q5fAccessories
    and will buy them if thats what i need

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    Wink

    Might be a good alternative if you need new shocks & want the same brand as stock BUT these are not external reservoir shocks like what's on the VX...unless I'm full of doo doo....but, that's what I see from their pic on the ebay ad.
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    I'll trade you my bilstiens with 1,000 miles on them for your stock ones with ???,??? miles

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    Quote Originally Posted by killinformula View Post
    how about replacng the shocks... i found these on ebay...


    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/KYB-4...Q5fAccessories
    and will buy them if thats what i need
    Jolly Roger hit the nail on the head...

    Those you found on ebay are KYB, but not close to the same performance as OEM.
    Bilstiens or Ranchos are the closest match in performance to OEM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ldub View Post
    Jolly Roger hit the nail on the head...

    Those you found on ebay are KYB, but not close to the same performance as OEM.
    Bilstiens or Ranchos are the closest match in performance to OEM.
    are those H1 and H2's a good deal then?

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    how will i tel lif my shocks are bad? been 7 years since i have delt with anything other than my formulas shocks which are a dime a dozen

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    Quote Originally Posted by killinformula View Post
    how about replacng the shocks... i found these on ebay...


    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/KYB-4...Q5fAccessories
    and will buy them if thats what i need
    NOOOOOO!!!! Don't buy KYB Gas-A-Justs!!! Total junk - not nearly strong enough for the VX's springs. That's what I had on my VX when I bought it, and it was a perfect ride - for a rodeo rider! I replaced them within months.

    The Bils you linked to are a solid deal - around $260 for a set of 4 is a very decent price, and cheaper than mechanics' parts suppliers. I would call them and see if they have the front shocks in the H1 spec - stiffer. (That' the setup I have.) If I were to do it again, I would see if they have the rears in H2 spec - I think my rear suspension hits sharp bumps too hard.

    As noted, if you see a sign of a leak on the top of any of the shocks, they are bad. The Bounce Test (push each corner down hard and release - watch for spring-like bouncing action versus one rebound and a stop) seems straight-forward enough, but does it is very hard to detect a marginal shock by this procedure.

    Keep this in mind - a vehicle rides on its springs, which bounce up and down. The shocks are supposed to allow the springs to compress, but counteract the spring's boing-boing-boing tendency. If the spring is acting springy, then the shock is not doing its job. Similarly, you can have a soft spring with too stiff a shock, or you can have a very strong spring (as in the VX) with too soft a shock. Getting the balance right is not so easy- just ask any Civic driver who put sport springs on his ricer but didn't replace the stock shocks.

    Good luck!!
    Last edited by VehiGAZ : 12/19/2008 at 05:49 AM

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    Quote Originally Posted by VehiGAZ View Post
    NOOOOOO!!!! Don't buy KYB Gas-A-Justs!!! Total junk - not nearly strong enough for the VX's springs. That's what I had on my VX when I bought it, and it was a perfect ride - for a rodeo rider! I replaced them within months.

    The Bils you linked to are a solid deal - around $260 for a set of 4 is a very decent price, and cheaper than mechanics' parts suppliers. I would call them and see if they have the front shocks in the H1 spec - stiffer. (That' the setup I have.) If I were to do it again, I would see if they have the rears in H2 spec - I think my rear suspension hits sharp bumps too hard.

    As noted, if you see a sign of a leak on the top of any of the shocks, they are bad. The Bounce Test (push each corner down hard and release - watch for spring-like bouncing action versus one rebound and a stop) seems straight-forward enough, but does it is very hard to detect a marginal shock by this procedure.

    Keep this in mind - a vehicle rides on its springs, which bounce up and down. The shocks are supposed to allow the springs to compress, but counteract the spring's boing-boing-boing tendency. If the spring is acting springy, then the shock is not doing its job. Similarly, you can have a soft spring with too stiff a shock, or you can have a very strong spring (as in the VX) with too soft a shock. Getting it right (just ask any Civic driver who put sport springs on his ricer but didn't replace the stock shocks.

    Good luck!!
    thank you! If the shocks are gone i will betting the bils... thanks a gain for a detailed explanation of what to look for, i will keep my eyes open for oil leaks when she is on lift and will get a friend to help me check for "bounce"

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    Hmmm. I remember when I bought my first car, a classic 1968 Mercury Cougar (yes, I still have it & is now restored to show quality). Back then, I was 17 and the first thing I wanted to do when I got it home was jack it up in the rear end and put huge meats on the rear axle. I remember my Dad saying: "Son-- the automobile manufacturer's spend millions & millions of dollars designing & perfecting an automobile; and now you're telling me, the first thing you want to do is change it???" Needless to say, I followed my Dad's advice and kept my Cougar 100% stock (and it was the right choice).

    What I'm trying to say is that the OEM stock shocks on the VX are the very best there is for the VX, period. As such, only factory OEM Isuzu replacement shocks (with exact same part number) should be used at time of replacement. Any other brand or model of shock on the VX would be a downgrade in performance. Stick with the factory OEM shocks when replacement is needed. You'll be glad you did.

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    Just got my VX this week (2001 Foxfire Red with 63,500k miles). Been following this thread about the shocks, trying to learn as much as I can from this great forum. I wondered about the shocks so I got under it and snapped some photos. I'm trying to figure out how to post them...as soon as I finish this post I'll try.

    I don't "think" I see any evidence of leakage of any kind on the shocks. But wondered if anybody else sees any issues. We live on dirt road, ride is very rough, plus sounds like car is "shaking" apart. I know VX rides rough according to all info I've read, but I don't have anything to compare it to. That's why I'm following this thread, debating OEM vs. Bilsteins, etc... Don't even know if mine need anything. Haven't yet found anything that explains what the advantage is to having the reservoir type? I'm sure there's some benefit.

    Thanks for any input!

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    Here's a small test.. drive the VX around for a while.. then test the temperature of the shocks.. if they are cold.. they arent working

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