Ok someone else that has this issue....I fill with 6 qts each time as i found that in the manual somewhere. My dipstick rarely registers any oil on it.
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Ok someone else that has this issue....I fill with 6 qts each time as i found that in the manual somewhere. My dipstick rarely registers any oil on it.
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Hey J,Originally Posted by JHarris1385
First off, let me just say that my dipstick DOES register oil. But usually, with an oil change, I could top off with just one 5 quart jug. And now, this time, for the first time, it took more than 5 quarts to top off the oil...
I mean, its going somewhere?!?!?!
Bart
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It sounds like you might have some slug in the oil return holds on the heads. You might want to pull your valve covers and do an inspection. I had that issue with my Montero.
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I have no idea how to do that. I mean, everything is running good. No knock, etc. Do you think this because of the PCV valve issue or because of the VX taking more oil or both? Could changing the EGR valve have anything to do with this?It sounds like you might have some slug in the oil return holds on the heads. You might want to pull your valve covers and do an inspection. I had that issue with my Montero.
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Yeah I have no idea what he just said...
I have always put 6 in. I know it goes in, and I never have leaks. No knocking one bit.
I do have the mild diesel sound coming from the loose nut.
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Sorry, I’ll try and explain it a little better. When the oil return holes on the heads get clogged with carbon slug produced by combustion it can slow and sometimes stop the flow of oil back to the oil pan. If your seeing seepage around the PCV valve there’s a good chance the valve cover is filling with oil because the oil return holes are restricted with slug. I had this issue with my old 91 Montero about 3 years ago. I ran some pipe cleaners down the return holes and it seemed to take care of the problem.
That would also explain why your oil level is off. There is still a lot of oil up in the valve covers. I try and find some examples of this.
I have no idea how to do that. I mean, everything is running good. No knock, etc. Do you think this because of the PCV valve issue or because of the VX taking more oil or both? Could changing the EGR valve have anything to do with this?
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Well, what I am going to do is just keep checking my PCV. Like I said, normally I swap it for a new one every other oil change, if not every single oil change. This is the first time I have seen oil around the PCV. It's possible the PCV was just clogged a little. I will look at it again soon and see if there is more with the brand new vavle in the there.
J, no loose nuts knocking around, except the ones in my shorts.
Bart
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I checked in to some examples. If you where having oil return problems you would see other symptoms like blue smoke at startup and oil seepage around the valve cover gaskets.
It sound like your on the right track.
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You recirculate the exhaust gasses in your shorts??? Novel approach, I must say...
J, no loose nuts knocking around, except the ones in my shorts.
Bart
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What you read is on a brand new engine, I saw that too. But the manual on page 26 says, it is 5.0 US qt with filter, 4.3 without. Wish I could find that reference about 5.7 qt's, but it is wrong for the normal service.
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just throwing this out there...be sure the mobil one "jug" is actually 5 quarts. I just bought some (I always get mine from WalMart) and all the "jugs" on the shelf of the various weights (10w, 15w, 5w, etc) were now 4 quarts...so I had to buy a lone quart as well.
This sucks...'cause I really liked getting all 5 quarts in a one shot deal. I noticed other brands (Valvoline, etc.) still had 5 quart jugs available.
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Dude, holy carp!You are totally right! I didn't even notice! I just went in the garage and sure enough, the jug I bought was only 4 quarts!!!! What gets better, is they used to be $22 for the 5 quart jug and now its $26 for the 4 quart jug!!! WTF!!!???!!!???
I feel like an idiot...but thanks.
Bart
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What gets better, is they used to be $22 for the 5 quart jug and now its $26 for the 4 quart jug!!! WTF!!!???!!!???
Bart
My thoughts exactly!
Don't feel bad about not noticing the change...I "barely" caught it myself...if it wasn't for the other brands still being 5 quarts and their "jugs" looking much larger on the shelf next to the Mobil one...I'm sure I'd have missed it too!
Last edited by Jolly Roger VX'er : 11/14/2008 at 12:16 AM
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That is completely retarded and takes the point away of buying the jug. I noticed this about 3-4 oil changes ago and though dumb it is to buy a jug and a single.
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Yeah, it's freakin' stupid. Now, to do a regular oil change I need to buy 2 jugs @ $26 a pop! I was talking to my wife about this, and she said she read somewhere that this is the new "scam" that companies are doing to cut corners and save money in this recessed economical time. Basically, a lot of products will look the same, but if you look at the box the net weight will be a little bit less. So keep your eyes on the products you buy. I should have noticed it. When I went in the garage I took out an old jug I kept to dump used oil and I put it next to the new jug and just sat there for a second like, damn...and then I thought of price and it was like in the cartoons when you crack an egg on a bald guy's head who is real angry and then the egg fries.
Bart
PS - I guess this "discovery" complete negates this entire thread, which is good...
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