View Poll Results: Smoking in you VX

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  • I DO smoke in my VX

    7 17.07%
  • I DON'T smoke in my VX

    2 4.88%
  • I DON'T smoke at all nor do I allow others to smoke in my VX

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  1. #1
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    You may not have found a smoking thread, but there are PLENTY of seatbelt threads out there that will have similar responses.

    As for me, I have been quit for about 7-8 years now. I smoked in high school, through college and then quit being a "regular" smoker after college and only lit up when I was drinking/partying. Now, I am totally done with it, and I really don't like smelling it (my brother is living with me now and he smokes outside the house and it drives me nuts cause he reeks and the smell does get in the house).

    All that said, if you want to kill yourself with smoking, by all means have at it. I think it is bs that a law can prohibit you from smoking on your own lawn or in your vehicle.

    Smoking is bad for your health, indeed. But so is drinking cow milk, McDonalds, driving, sitting in front of the TV, and countless other common human activities. Why smoking has been attacked while all these other things are stil "OK" is beyond me. I think obesity and a sedentary life style is FAR worse for your health than smoking.

    Personally, I like no smoking laws because I personally benefit from it, but like everything else, once one freedom is taken, more will get taken, and sooner or later it will impact a freedom I enjoy.

    Bart

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    I have smoked a few times in my VX, but usually only road trips or when REALLY stuck in traffic. I only smoke about 2-3 packs a week and even that has been getting scaled back. Eventually, I will have quit again.

    Now, I can understand not smoking IN public establishments, but in MY car that I own, or outdoors on MY property.... fine me. See if I pay it. I show my respect by not smoking if NON smokers are around, as no cigarette is that important that I have to have one now and then, but to actually enforce a law of the grade that you are speaking, that is absurd. As long as I pay taxes and (unwillingly) pay these outrageous gov't salaries, they better uphold my Constitutional right to smoke. Our wig wearing forefathers have been rolling in their graves for far too long now. Had they known things would turn out this way, I think they would have thought twice about fighting for OUR independence.

    Just my $.02.
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    I'm a smoker and enjoy it, although I hate what it's doing to my body.

    My view is this and I raised this same issue with the Smoker's Ordinance here in Louisville KY when they decided to ban smoking from bars, restaurants (even the outside sitting sections), bingo halls, outdoor church picnics, etc when I attended the last meeting.

    I certainly do ask each and every person near me if it's OK that I smoke before I fire one up, whether I know them or not...it's respectful of THEIR lungs. I do not smoke in my house because I have a house full of animals (im an animal lover) with 2 cats, 2 ferrits and a couple of birds and they don't have a choice in what they breathe so it's only fair. So I don't smoke in the house but I do smoke on the deck outside and in my VX.

    If you are TRULY concerned about "smoke" and health benefits directly related from "smoke" then surely you need to see the BIG PICTURE. The "smoke" coming from the exhaust of YOUR car, your truck, your boat, your scooter, your moped, your ATV, your lawnmower, your weed trimmer, your chainsaw..(you get my point) is FAR FAR FAR FAR more worse than the smoke coming from my cig. In fact, the smoke from the said above is helping a great deal to destroy the very ecosystem that sustains life on earth.

    So for an individual or group of people that would actually support such a law, in my opinion, should be also actively supporting a cleaner environment for EVERYTHING that lives here, not just humans. I have, however, not yet found such an individual.

    Just my 2 cents...

    By the way, of course I drive a VX and I know what it's doing to the environment HOWEVER I only drive it about 15miles per day total. And I'm VERY aggressive with recycling and composting nearly and truly almost EVERYTHING I use as a consumer. I also have replaced all lights (including accent lights) in my home with LEDs (not the flouresants), I get all my water needs from a well on the farm (do not use city water or sewers or trash removal) and I'm in the beginning stages of completely solarizing the home.

    But for some reason I just can't get rid of the VX, not matter how much I love our planet... I'm actually hoping one day to make it a hybrid or fully electric

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    Quote Originally Posted by nfpgasmask View Post
    You may not have found a smoking thread, but there are PLENTY of seatbelt threads out there that will have similar responses.
    Bart, how true, how true!!!!! We should just post that thread here, because you are so right you might as well take out seat belt and replace with smoking.... lol.....

    I personally have never smoked or drank anything and do not plan on it, and since I do not like the smell of Cigarette smoke (it really makes me sick to my stomach sometimes) I would not want someone smoking in a closed environment with me, but I have met my mentor at a cigar shop a few times, and my sister and her husband smoke while I am around and it doesn't bother me too much if we are outside. They do smoke but they never smoke in their cars or in their house.

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    i smoked for 30 years...I liked it ..but I had to stop... and now im ok with people that smoke ..no biggie,,but dont get near my VX.....
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    I don't smoke but wifey does. Since I bought the Proton for her - I can't very well tell her not to smoke in it. I chew tho so be careful if you ever pass me
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    I do not smoke.I have no problem with others smoking, as long as I am not forced to smoke with them. I hate the fact that places do not enforce the so many feet from the door law. And I also do not like the BUTT flickers, If you smoke in your car put the butt in your ashtray. If you smoke in public throw the butt in the trash. shawn
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    I’m all for smokers rights and I think the second hand smoke B/S is just that, but stay away from my VX!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZEUS View Post
    I have a dream to pick up a freshly flicked smoking butt from the sidewalk and flick it into the face of the person who just put it there! Haven't found a guy small enough yet though...
    A couple decades ago I had this opportunity. I was riding my motorcycle home and just pulled up to a red light. This guy pulls up in the lane next to me, rolls down his window and flicks his cigarette on the ground in front of my bike. I rolled forward a couple feet, picked up the still smoking butt, and deposited it on his windshield. Of course he starts yelling, and the light changed, and I took off. He chased me down a back street and I found myself in a dead end. He jumped out of his car and flashes a badge at me...

    I don't remember exactly what agreement we came to, but I didn't get arrested, and he didn't get fined for littering.

    And, FWIW, I won't allow a cigarette within ten feet of my cars! (or my house, and my daughter is a smoker!)
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    i smoked lightly for a while (pack a week or less) but never ever anywhere near the vx.. really just in bars that allowed it.. now its just cigars every few weeks and those dont go anywhere near the vx either..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cobrajet View Post
    A couple decades ago I had this opportunity. I was riding my motorcycle home and just pulled up to a red light. This guy pulls up in the lane next to me, rolls down his window and flicks his cigarette on the ground in front of my bike. I rolled forward a couple feet, picked up the still smoking butt, and deposited it on his windshield. Of course he starts yelling, and the light changed, and I took off. He chased me down a back street and I found myself in a dead end. He jumped out of his car and flashes a badge at me...

    I don't remember exactly what agreement we came to, but I didn't get arrested, and he didn't get fined for littering.

    And, FWIW, I won't allow a cigarette within ten feet of my cars! (or my house, and my daughter is a smoker!)
    I was hit several time while riding when I lived in Tucson. Sadly enough one was from a fellow rider. No helmet law in AZ so he thought it was cool to ride and smoke at the same time. I believe hes dead now, didnt work while hauling 'A' up mnt lemon.

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    Don't smoke, and don't allow smoking in my car or house.

    I'm not really for smokers rights either atleast not tobacco smokers rights. Utah clean air act is great. I was in Denver 2 weeks ago and walking around 16th street downtown, and 75% of people were smoking, it was quite unpleasant. In Utah you have to be more than 50' away from the entrance of a public business. But you can still smoke in private clubs.

    I absolutely hate butt litterers and if I get hit by a butt from another ***** while I'm riding my motorcycle... I'm... going to... just deal with it, but be very angry.

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    psychos2...i agree with you...i dont know why but nothing pisses me off more than having someone throw a cigarette out the window of their car in front of me....drives me nuts.....

    and mark i agree with you...no one smokes anything near either of my cars...

    when i road trip with people who smoke i would rather stop every hour and let them huff one down...
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    My .02

    I hate smoke. I actually get nauseous if I’m around it too long.

    I hate the way people smell who have been smoking, especially when they want to talk to you too closely.

    My father and his girlfriend smoke and I really only like to visit with them if its outside cause then I can breath and visit longer.

    I also hate when people throw out there cigs on the ground.

    My sense of smell is pretty good so i hate it when I sit next to them in traffic. Even with my windows up it stinks.

    Basically I hate it all around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrnCnn View Post
    My .02

    I hate smoke. I actually get nauseous if I’m around it too long.

    I hate the way people smell who have been smoking, especially when they want to talk to you too closely.

    My father and his girlfriend smoke and I really only like to visit with them if its outside cause then I can breath and visit longer.

    I also hate when people throw out there cigs on the ground.

    My sense of smell is pretty good so i hate it when I sit next to them in traffic. Even with my windows up it stinks.

    Basically I hate it all around.
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