Oh you 80-90º weather folk make me jealous. For the past few years we haven't had a fall in Utah. A couple weeks ago it was HOT outside. Now there's snow. And it's still bitter.

Winter definitely makes me appreciate spring, but I also haven't had a spring for a few years. This last year is was bitter until late June, then instantly hot. Don't know what the deal is... This "Climate change" has got me confused