i just finished cleaning that sensor and plus i also found out that the MAF sensor on my Veronica(VX) was backwards, hmmmm don't know how , but i fixed it, and with those two things done, and cleaned out, WOW, huge diffrence in Accel... and response, i can'tg even discribe the diffrnce but i can feel a big jump from being sluggish and slower to really feeling like i'm driving a stick car. its really that big of a jump and it's weird. Thanx for the info silverbullet.