Hood Insert Project

[Vehi-Cross-Az]

Im going forward with my new hood insert project
Im going to put a WRX hoodscoop on one and make
a mold off it and start making whole new Insert with
the scoop molded in as one pcs.
Only making it out of fiberglass.
If anyone has a damaged insert Id be willing to buy
it and pay shipping if the cost is right.
If not, Ill just pull mine off and use it as the mock up
piece.
If you have one, email me directly and lets talk about
it.

Est time to have ready, 2-3 months.
Not sure exactly of cost yet.

thanks
Dayle

motorsport_svx@yahoo.com

[JoFotoz]

Dayle...you have mail!

If you have one, email me directly and lets talk about
it.

jo

[Vehi-Cross-Az]

btw, if the WRX scoop isnt everyone first choice
Im up for suggestions before we do it.

[Vehi-Cross-Az]

I like this scoop actually more
and think is a better option

[snowtrooper1966]

Cowl induction, please! Not ram air....
Best,

[So-CalVX]

as anyone looked at the scoop that the 4runner had for a few years back in like 99-00? I think that one would look good on the VX. Either that or a heat extractor/cowl induction scoop.
edit, found a couple pics... but now that i get to thinking about it, u prolly jus wanna do it all easy like with no chopping of another hood huh? i jus think the 4runner scoop would look cool.
my .02 cents

[Thmstec]

gotta agree with the cowl induction, but I do like the look of that 2nd option. And I'll be a probable customer seeing as though mine is faded and looks like crap. Just gotta price it right for me

[Vehi-Cross-Az]

thats easy enough, I can just flip that scoop
backwards and take some pics tomorrow..
I like forward facing myself, but Ill go where there
is more interest. It only makes sense.
Extracting hot air can only help for those willing to
cut a hole in their hoods.

[johnnyapollo]

The issue with reversing the scoop is you'll be placing heat right at the leading edge of the windshield, right where intakes for "fresh" air to the AC/Fan are (provided you cut the hood and it's functional) - you'll notice that most extractor set-ups place the openings on the sides of the hood to help prevent the air from circulating back into the cabin. I already smell the foul air produced by the breather filters (instead of going back into the TB, I've got a breather filter on the passenger valve cover) and it can get pretty bad and that's just the smell without the heat! - just something to think about.

-- John

[WormGod]

This weekend I FINALLY modded in my ram air. Been sitting on this one for about 3 years and forced myself to tear it down and set it up. Ran plumbing from the small ports in the front cladding, around the lower/front radiator support, back and up through the wheel well (under the inner well cover), and into the OEM airbox. And I will admit, the maiden voyage showed promise. At speed, that extra forced, cool air gave it some more "oomph".

The 2 things left to do:

- set up the plumbing to marry to the Tornado canister from Tone.

- Finish modding the CAI to be less of a hulking monstrosity.

(thanks again John for the Alpine hose)

In regards to induction/extraction, I would desperately love to find a way to pull some of that heat out of the engine bay. I am thinking of going back to my OEM hood insert now since I decided that I am not gonna port the hood to make the scoop functional (lets face it.... a hole in the hood with a scoop is hardly functional for any reason without solid air porting anyways). Our engine bay is pretty cramped and room for porting is minimal, so getting heat OUT is another problem altogether. And seriously, when you pop that hood after even just a short ride, peeking in will singe off your eyebrows.

I am ALWAYS down for sharing ideas on extraction .

Hey John, speaking of breather filters, how long is your plumbing? Considering it isnt married to the intake any longer, it must get a healthy dose of super heated air, like mine. Mine does since the plumbing is only about 5" off the valve cover. I have been considering extending that to locate the filter in a cooler but dry area but have come up short in finding a good location where cool and dry are hand in hand.

The VX is back in the laboratory, as you can see, heh.

[johnnyapollo]

Sorry if I'm highjacking the thread -

Gary, I ran a CAI directly from the TB on the SC to the enclosed filter to the fender hole - it made the temp gauge noticeably cooler (it ran slightly hot with a regular straight tube-to-cone filter setup). Here's a photo:



The front of the filter enclosure turns into the hole using a fitting so it's pulling directly from the fender.

However, I just pulled the unit off and replaced with my old manifold (pulled the injectors, rail, FPR, EGR and sensors offa that extra complete Trooper manifold I got on eBay last year for $35). I'm sending the SC off to get rebuilt as the rear drive bearing was sounding like it was about to shear off. Everything was going fine until last night when I threw a CEL - I'm about to go out and diagnose the numbers (thankfully I'm off today). It could be one of the injectors as you couldn't noticeably feel the pulsing or it might be a manifold gasket leak (I reused the old - stupid but I figured for a temp setup it should be OK - prolly a mistake). The other possiblitiy is a lean 02 sensor (ran some low grade fuel with injector cleaner). I'll keep you updated.

-- John

[WormGod]

Very similar to the setup I just did John. I am using the stock airbox fender hole location as well, but just ran my plumbing through there from the from cladding port. I think this option is the safest compared to trying to get some sort of ram air out of a forward hood scoop, considering measures need to be taken concerning moisture. Might look more aggressive, but I think it's too much work for a minimal payoff. I just need to do a few minor tweaks to get the Tornado shell to fit with my gigantic C/F intake. I am close, just need the willpower to withstand the evening 100f heat in my garage, heh.

See the behemoth I am working with....



Still interested in seeing what Dayle can pull off here though. Visually, a scoop turns a kitten into a tiger, heh.

[technocoy]

I liked the extraction that used to be on that silver and purple VX that was an audio competitor or something?

It made use of the scale and impactof the entire insert.

The thing that bugs me with just planting a scoop in the middle of the insert is that from a design perspective it becomes repetitive and funny in terms of scale. It visually starts to look like a scoop within a scoop since we already have the hood being broken up by the insert.

Just my 2 cents.

Cheers.

[technocoy]

eh, I had remembered this a bit different...

If you ditch the second tier of the design (the upper part) I like the shape of this. The top part is too square and too much for the design, but the underlying form is nice.

http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/sh...ppuser/20/sl/r

[technocoy]

if you have a forward scoop, would it make sense from a performance standpoint if it was further to the front of the hood? If so, I think I'm going to photoshop an idea.