Hood Insert Project

[WormGod]

John summed that up well.

Even with a forward scoop, without proper channeling of the air once it enters at speed, it does you no good.It's just cooler (than engine bay) air that is being forced in and then heated up with the rest of the air, with no use.

What you need is to get that forced in air to the intake (whatever option you use - CAI, airbox, etc). Getting the air there before it is warmed is ideal.

A forward scoop with a hole in the hood has 2 uses a few uses:

- lets cooler, fresher air in at speed.... but this new air is basically useless to you (must be captured and directed to the right area)

- well, it looks kinda neat, right?

- lets rodents have an access route for finding warm places in the winter

What I find ideal is, getting the air to where it is most useful and ALSO being able to pull the warm air from the engine bay in general. I am unsure that we get enough flow over the hood at speed to have a fruitful "draw" of air to be pulled from some sort of insert extraction. This is the mud hole I sit in now. I am considering pulling off the OEM skid plating below the engine bay to promote more flow, but it may not be enough to even bother with. Then, looking at cowl options, whether they be insert related or actual hood modifications.

God! Dont you just love projects?!

[Gussie2000]

[QUOTE=WormGod;131113]John summed that up well.

Even with a forward scoop, without proper channeling of the air once it enters at speed, it does you no good.It's just cooler (than engine bay) air that is being forced in and then heated up with the rest of the air, with no use.

What you need is to get that forced in air to the intake (whatever option you use - CAI, airbox, etc). Getting the air there before it is warmed is ideal.

A forward scoop with a hole in the hood has 2 uses a few uses:

- lets cooler, fresher air in at speed.... but this new air is basically useless to you (must be captured and directed to the right area)

- well, it looks kinda neat, right?

Hey guys there's something that always wonder in my mind ....

If you mod the hood to add a functional scoop to the intake how do you avoid water getting into the intake ?

Sorry,it sounds dummy & i do admited

[Vehi-Cross-Az]

If all goes well, Im going to have a complete new
hood panel with the scoop molded in, so its essentially
a one pcs design.
Maybe by Oct.
I can get the scoops all day long but they have to be
modded some to correctly bolt on the stock panel.

Again, Im more concerned about looks more then anything else.

[JoFotoz]

So ...the blank Hood insert I offered you~~ is no longer required?

Just trying to keep track?


Ya wanted it...then ya didnt....or Don't...?

Jo

If all goes well, Im going to have a complete new
hood panel with the scoop molded in, so its essentially
a one pcs design.
Maybe by Oct.
I can get the scoops all day long but they have to be
modded some to correctly bolt on the stock panel.

Again, Im more concerned about looks more then anything else.

[Vehi-Cross-Az]

most of it depends on the response I get from
the site on the project, which really hasnt been
all that positive. It has to be cost effective or it
really isnt worth doing.

If bolting on a scoops works just as well even
then the project may get scrapped..

but thanks, Ill be in touch about your panel.

[So-CalVX]

what's the comparison in price for the one piece scooped insert and the bolt on scoop gonna be though. I think if u were to let that info out u'd get more honest answers.

[WormGod]

Plumbing that cool, fresh air to your intake is key, BUT, moisture is also a huge problem. The last thing you want to do is to turn your intake filter into a wet diaper. You'll notice that the stock airbox is fed by air through the left front fender. The plumbing for this also has some elbow work to get air that from an upper-most angle of the inside fender and then again with another elbow once inside the engine bay, before it reaches the filter. The filter is then loacted ABOVE the intake port so altogether, you get maximum moisture diversion. This is very typical on just about every modern vehicle.

Coming up with something aftermarket that plumbs to the intake is tricky and really involves a lot of thoughts and care. Simply testing out different channels is not the best route to go and usually what will work best isnt gonna be the prettiest thing. I had and tried some ideas in the passed years and never came up with anything that worked well that was pretty and offered moisture protection. Its always been an uphill battle with this with me.

[Vehi-Cross-Az]

what's the comparison in price for the one piece scooped insert and the bolt on scoop gonna be though. I think if u were to let that info out u'd get more honest answers.

no ones even asked about prices, till maybe now
and I cant even say because it depends on how many
full panels we make and get committments for..
(which is pretty small right now)

If you want me to guess, sure my guess would be the
panel can run between $180-280 plus shipping...
again that all depends on how many we get made per
batch.

The scoops alone ? this one I picked up used, so not sure
what they cost new....my guess around $100 each
or more maybe new.
Again, with little to no interest, whats the point of looking
for them.
If I want it on my vehicle, I guess I only need one, right.?