Every mile costs/ ideas to better the milage

[MoonRaker]

Hey MoonRaker, I think that's cool!

I love to tinker with ideas and try to gain an understand why things do or don't work. Sounds like that's what you are going for. I rarely find the time for those little pet projects, so I applaud your effort and descriptions of anything you learn about this subject.
My guess is that you won't learn or achieve exactly what you intended, but as many have in the past you will learn something else that surprizes you even more! (and have a blast doing it)

It looks like this device isn't seperating the Hydrogen from the Oxygen, so it's a new concept to me. If burning it as you make it, this should be fine. If storing it, you would want to just store the Hydrogen, cuz theres lots of Oxygen to be had from the air as you need it.

Also, I'm not sure that you can't upload photos if not a member. I think you are just limited in storage space???

Keep working on your dreams, stick with the facts, share with those who are interested, oh and most importantly be SAFE.

My 2.499999999 cents worth

The oxygen in the hydrogen also acts like an excelerant but I scratched the idea of storage. It seems that you can only make so much before it starts costing effeciancy and builds alot of heat. I have one settup on the bench that im doing the preassure testing with. Its a tubler settup but bigger and solid stainles. Its the one id be affraid of using in my VX unless I can change the timming. After it reaches 130 it tends to kinda boil over so im still working on electrolite mixture to keep it below that. Also if you use anything that isnt pure stainles as a metal you run into contamination issues wich if you dont change the water often it becomes a heat issue also. Im also trying to avoid a situation like this or worse.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e85aPS6P72A

[MoonRaker]

I was woundering if anyone has had any experiance with the Gready E manage engine managment system on a VX. I ask this because I have one on the shelf.

[MoonRaker]

Pay close attention to #8
http://www.primeideas.info/patents.html

[Techy-D]

You might also check out:
http://www.hydrogenht.com/

http://money.cnn.com/2008/07/01/smal...ce=yahoo_quote

[MoonRaker]

Nice reading. Seems alot of people are liking hydrogen.

Well, made a few adjustments. I move the imput of hydrogen to the intake from the PCV. I patched up all the holes and settup a controled vacume bleed. It seems the ECU trimmed its self to the stock perameters, all except the MAF the other way.

[MoonRaker]

Well, looking hopfull, even better then the 285 mile till the idiot light for gas came on. On that test I had seen 34 miles before the pass of the full mark. This tank is 38.

[MoonRaker]

Well, 298. I need to figure out a certain way to lean out the mix to get anymore. My boss and I took his car out to do some testing. This is an RX8. We got on the highway and he just started pulling out fuel, we leaned out the mix to 19/1 air fuel, any further dosnt register. Then we continued to lean it out a few more points and it didnt feel like it was running that lean, usauly it bucks and stumbles starting at 15/1. Well for the big test I turned off the generator and the car died. We pulled over and had to add 30% fuel to get it running again. Hmmm

[Techy-D]

Nice reading. Seems alot of people are liking hydrogen.

Well, made a few adjustments. I move the imput of hydrogen to the intake from the PCV. I patched up all the holes and settup a controled vacume bleed. It seems the ECU trimmed its self to the stock perameters, all except the MAF the other way.

Are you using a ScanGauge or something to see what the system is doing? I'd be interested in the Fuel Injector Trim #'s, as this may be an indicator of what's happening in there. (I've played a bit with them to help figure out my problems, you have to program them into the Scangauge - Xgauge)

[MoonRaker]

Are you using a ScanGauge or something to see what the system is doing? I'd be interested in the Fuel Injector Trim #'s, as this may be an indicator of what's happening in there. (I've played a bit with them to help figure out my problems, you have to program them into the Scangauge - Xgauge)

Ive figured out whats happining with the trims, it seems that the foward wideband 02s want to see around 700 and even if you try to show less flow across the maf (2 volts less) it trims to compansate. I have a trouble code thats been there for a while showing the EGR isnt working correctly, I pulled it apart and it seems it was somewhat sticky but has nuthing to do with the setup since its been there for a while prior to the generator. I havent coughed up the money for a new valve because it dosnt make a difference in the way the truck runs. I just switched to a higher output generator so im gona need to trim fuel to get the most out of it. Gotta rember that the ECU is programed to give the proper emmisions value. You could run it fine a little leaner but it runs it richer to get the cat to work properly. Hmm, maybe punching the cat out will tell the foward 2 02 sensors to pull fuel out?? Gona try other stuff first but its an idea. Im trying to avoid throwing any other codes because that might cause the ECU to get thrown into open loop, or that might be somthing to try also, open loop is the ECUs pre programed tune, it usauly goes into openloop under haevy load or certain codes being thrown. Might try disconecting the rear o2 sensors.