Every mile costs/ ideas to better the milage

[MoonRaker]

and the next step should be actually testing mpg on a controlled test. So far it seems you are basing everything on feelings, which can be correct, but no actual measurement. I would have thought drilling into a freshly built motor would void the warranty as well as any extended warranty. I want better mpg but if I had an extra $500 I would have put it towards gas it would get you further than 1-2 more mpg.

Well lets just take my first tank full wich was a test and a prosses of tunning in the hydrogen. I went from 240 miles to 285 on 16 gallons. This was prior to leaning the VX out buy drilling holes and covering them with a filter. I have no warrenty on the truck and I built my motor myself. I wouldnt trust the monkeys at the dealer touching anything. Ive never seen 285 miles out of a tank before so id have to say thats hard evidence, atleast to me. Id post some pictures but im not a paying member so I cant post any pics.

[taylorRichie]

Sounds like it's time for a $20 donation

This is a very interesting build, very excited to see how it goes...

And I was getting 350 per tank before wheels and tires, still getting over 250, and just turned 50,000 an hour ago

[MoonRaker]

Ow, total cost for my system in the VX was $180 for the cell, $30 for the acrilic and a relay and wiring were stocked itemes at the shop I work at. The other $290 has gone into other tests wich have proven to be better then expected, 1 psi every 4 or 5 secounds, the nothing to shake a stick at.

[Griffin]

Well, this seems interesting. My girlfriends dad just did this similar setup to his CR-V and is get 7mpg more. He has some kind of module that he controls to output for city and highway driving. To be honest I don't like his setup it is just ugly I think he did for like 40 bucks though.

Could I see some pictures of your setup?

[Ascinder]

I'm sure if you emailed the pics to someone here, they would post them up, or use photobucket or something like that to remote link them. What does the meyers setup do that the light/outlet plate style doesn't do?

[Triathlete]

$500...just buy a bike! WAY better gas mileage, no emissions, and you get a little exercise!

[Ascinder]

$500...just buy a bike! WAY better gas mileage, no emissions, and you get a little exercise!

Or get a lot of exercise and run, then take $500 and put it into the Moab 2009 fund!

[johnnyapollo]

The Inventor, Stanley Meyer, was conviced of fraud in 1996:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Meyer

It's too bad that his brother is continuing to promote this farce and the "conspiracy" of his murder.

-- John

[Tone]

Ya'll continue to slay me! How many threads are going to be created on this pipe dream with all sorts of gonna do this and gonna do that and a whole lot of nothing being done because it can't? The vehicle has been out for over 11yrs and those who got it first would have corrected this by now. It will never win any MPG awards without changing the facts.

Fact: It's heavy @ 3955 pounds
Fact: It's underpowered for that weight @ 215 HP
It's power to weight ratio = 0.0543615676359 (larger, whole numbers are better for efficiency)
AND it's four wheel drive (do away with the 4WD and it becomes very difficult to control, even with the stock engine)

So, aside from running full air pressure in the tires, flowing more air in and out of the engine (w/o over doing it - no 3"+ pipes), driving properly, and correcting your mistaken calculations for non-oem tire sizes, it's gonna be what it is.

You bought the wrong vehicle for MPG and performance w/ one of a kind styling. If you spend $4500 to put in a bigger and more efficient motor AND drivetrain, it 'll take you four+ YEARS to realize the savings IF you can gain even a 10mpg increase doing so.

And since most of the chatter is from those who bought into this vehicle at WELL below sticker unlike the rest of us, I don't see ANY ONE putting 50%+ of their purchase price BACK into an 8+ yr old high mileage vehicle. But then again they sell a LOT of Tornados and Fuel Magnets.....

You're on the planet for a finite time: either enjoy what you drive or drive a Prius and STFU! "The real question is, when you turn your car on, does it return the favor?" Or it just a generic device to get you from point A to B?

[Solitude]

AMEN.. well said

[circmand]

Frankly if it hadnt been along time member I would have said this guy was full of it but since it was I asked for proof. If the people who run this site were inclined to eliminate these types of BS posts I would not have a problem. Salute to Tone for calling out this BS artist