Every mile costs/ ideas to better the milage

[MoonRaker]

Ive never seen more then 260 miles out of a tank without the hydrogen so I guess you drive like granny lol.

[nfpgasmask]

My whole thing is this:

The VX is a gas guzzler. That is what it is. Like Tone said, if you want a fuel efficient vehicle, you should sell your VX and get something else. I have toyed with the idea of buying another vehicle that gets better mileage, keeping the VX for weekends, wheeling, camping, etc. But then I have another vehicle to insure and maintain, and another car payment. So I might as well just save that money and buy gas for my VX and try to baby it as much as I can. Investing a boat load of money to save money on gas is counter-productive.

Now, Moonraker, if you are saying only an inexpensive mod can save you all this money on gas, maybe there is something, but wouldn't everyone be doing it?? If there is REALLY something to this, why aren't shops across America equipping vehicles with this simple "fix" for poor efficiency? I'm not saying the whole process is a load of crap, but I do not understand why everyone wouldn't do it if it was a simple and worked as good as you say.

Also, if you ARE indeed saving money on gas, maybe you could kick in $20 of that extra cash you should now have so you can upload some photos!

Bart

[Techy-D]

Hey MoonRaker, I think that's cool!

I love to tinker with ideas and try to gain an understand why things do or don't work. Sounds like that's what you are going for. I rarely find the time for those little pet projects, so I applaud your effort and descriptions of anything you learn about this subject.
My guess is that you won't learn or achieve exactly what you intended, but as many have in the past you will learn something else that surprizes you even more! (and have a blast doing it)

It looks like this device isn't seperating the Hydrogen from the Oxygen, so it's a new concept to me. If burning it as you make it, this should be fine. If storing it, you would want to just store the Hydrogen, cuz theres lots of Oxygen to be had from the air as you need it.

Also, I'm not sure that you can't upload photos if not a member. I think you are just limited in storage space???

Keep working on your dreams, stick with the facts, share with those who are interested, oh and most importantly be SAFE.

My 2.499999999 cents worth

[MoonRaker]

Hey MoonRaker, I think that's cool!

I love to tinker with ideas and try to gain an understand why things do or don't work. Sounds like that's what you are going for. I rarely find the time for those little pet projects, so I applaud your effort and descriptions of anything you learn about this subject.
My guess is that you won't learn or achieve exactly what you intended, but as many have in the past you will learn something else that surprizes you even more! (and have a blast doing it)

It looks like this device isn't seperating the Hydrogen from the Oxygen, so it's a new concept to me. If burning it as you make it, this should be fine. If storing it, you would want to just store the Hydrogen, cuz theres lots of Oxygen to be had from the air as you need it.

Also, I'm not sure that you can't upload photos if not a member. I think you are just limited in storage space???

Keep working on your dreams, stick with the facts, share with those who are interested, oh and most importantly be SAFE.

My 2.499999999 cents worth

The oxygen in the hydrogen also acts like an excelerant but I scratched the idea of storage. It seems that you can only make so much before it starts costing effeciancy and builds alot of heat. I have one settup on the bench that im doing the preassure testing with. Its a tubler settup but bigger and solid stainles. Its the one id be affraid of using in my VX unless I can change the timming. After it reaches 130 it tends to kinda boil over so im still working on electrolite mixture to keep it below that. Also if you use anything that isnt pure stainles as a metal you run into contamination issues wich if you dont change the water often it becomes a heat issue also. Im also trying to avoid a situation like this or worse.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e85aPS6P72A

[MoonRaker]

I was woundering if anyone has had any experiance with the Gready E manage engine managment system on a VX. I ask this because I have one on the shelf.

[MoonRaker]

Pay close attention to #8
http://www.primeideas.info/patents.html

[Techy-D]

You might also check out:
http://www.hydrogenht.com/

http://money.cnn.com/2008/07/01/smal...ce=yahoo_quote

[MoonRaker]

My whole thing is this:

The VX is a gas guzzler. That is what it is. Like Tone said, if you want a fuel efficient vehicle, you should sell your VX and get something else. I have toyed with the idea of buying another vehicle that gets better mileage, keeping the VX for weekends, wheeling, camping, etc. But then I have another vehicle to insure and maintain, and another car payment. So I might as well just save that money and buy gas for my VX and try to baby it as much as I can. Investing a boat load of money to save money on gas is counter-productive.

Now, Moonraker, if you are saying only an inexpensive mod can save you all this money on gas, maybe there is something, but wouldn't everyone be doing it?? If there is REALLY something to this, why aren't shops across America equipping vehicles with this simple "fix" for poor efficiency? I'm not saying the whole process is a load of crap, but I do not understand why everyone wouldn't do it if it was a simple and worked as good as you say.

Also, if you ARE indeed saving money on gas, maybe you could kick in $20 of that extra cash you should now have so you can upload some photos!

Bart

That sounds kinda like the last used car salesman I spoke to when I bought my VX. Ive sent out a few pics of the model Ive built. They can be posted buy others but the other work is classified info. Ill drop the ball soon enough. $20 bucks buys almost 4.5 gallons of gas and 20 gallons of water.