LittleBeast becomes BigBeast, lift, rims, tires, and more. Pics, PICS, and more PICS.

[jetz86]

Your ride looks wicked bro! Makes me more motivated to make mods on my baby too!
Jetz86

[LittleBeast]

Your ride looks wicked bro! Makes me more motivated to make mods on my baby too!
Jetz86

Thanks, what were you thinking of doing?

[mdwyer]

... every time this thread gets bumped, my pocket book gets scared.

I really want to do the lift/big tires thing, but I also want to do it RIGHT... My local shop pretty much talked me out of the springs and crank thing until I get some drop brackets.

[Toad80t]

... every time this thread gets bumped, my pocket book gets scared.

I hear you there. The lift is the cheap part. I priced some mud grapplers and new rims............ Don't think I will be doing that this year. I do have to get new tires though. So 265/75/16 terra's it is for awhile.

[ericjimenez]

Looks awesome man, i like the lift on it, do you think mine would look nice if i lifted it a bit or just leave it alone?

[pbkid]

looks like its already lifted to me...

i like the painted cladding

[Ldub]

Looks awesome man, i like the lift on it, do you think mine would look nice if i lifted it a bit or just leave it alone?

IMHO, more clearance in your wheel wells would look...

Having said that, I'll reiterate my opinion on mods to "YOUR" VX...

Do whatever YOU think looks good & damn what others like!...

Nothing of any meaning or substance, has EVER been accomplished by following the rest of the herd...GO BOLDLY!

If everyone did what they saw their neighbor doing, we would all still be living in caves.

[SilverBullet75]

...Having said that, I'll reiterate my opinion on mods to "YOUR" VX...

Do whatever YOU think looks good & damn what others like!...

Nothing of any meaning or substance, has EVER been accomplished by following the rest of the herd...GO BOLDLY!

If everyone did what they saw their neighbor doing, we would all still be living in caves.

Ldub,
On more than one occasion I've seen people get their egos knocked down... myself included... by people that didn't like the mods that someone had just posted.
What you just said is some of the best advice I've seen on this site to anyone asking "what do you think?"... Bravo!

[Ldub]

Ldub,
On more than one occasion I've seen people get their egos knocked down... myself included... by people that didn't like the mods that someone had just posted.
What you just said is some of the best advice I've seen on this site to anyone asking "what do you think?"... Bravo!

I hear ya cluckin' red rooster...

I've taken a few "body blows" myself, on some of my more ummmmmmm...
"outside the box" mods, but that's OK, I'm never gonna do mods to please others, only myself.

Opinions (especially mine ) are worth about what was paid, prolly less...

However, THAT being said, when any of us asks for others to opine on mods...brace yourself...

And then do it YOUR WAY!

[Riff Raff]

Looks awesome man, i like the lift on it, do you think mine would look nice if i lifted it a bit or just leave it alone?

Wow, I thought your VX was "lifted" in order to fit those tires. If you're not lifted, then I say DON'T LIFT-- it looks great the way it is.

I have never been a fan of lifting because of CV related problems. My theory has always been to put the biggest tire you can possibly fit within the VX "front" wheelwell WITHOUT "lifting", since it's the severely cramped "front" VX wheelwell that ultimately limits our aftermarket wheel/tire selections. The rear wheelwells has gobs of extra space, so the rear is not an issue (merely duplicate what was able to fit on the front).

LDUB--- I totally concur with your statement. Beauty is in the eye of the "owner" (not so much the "beholder"). Whenever I look at pictures of other people's VX's; there are always things I like, and things I don't like. The vast pool of VX mod's are plentiful and provides a wealth of ideas to incorporate (or not incorporate).

In viewing the pictures of LITTLE BEAST, the thing that really caught my eye was the "twin" chrome tow-hooks. A very simple mod, but has great impact as the twin tow-hooks perfectly augment the twin fangs and make a "well-balanced" front image. Sometimes it's the least expensive mod's that can make the biggest impact if tastefully done. LITTLE BEAST (although not a Proton), has always been one of my favorites. All of his mod's are "in concert" with each other, and provides a very pleasing overall package without being overdone.

[etlsport]

LDUB--- I totally concur with your statement. Beauty is in the eye of the "owner" (not so much the "beholder").

heh one of my fav quotes...

beauty is in the eye of the key-holder!

[LittleBeast]

Looks awesome man, i like the lift on it, do you think mine would look nice if i lifted it a bit or just leave it alone?

I think it would still look great lifted, however my personal opinion is I would probably like it more just the way it is. The 22's have quite a bit of aggressive stance and "big time" looks without the extra space in the wheel well's. If you went to a bigger tire, say a 35" tire then yes, lift. But I like it just the way you have it for your current tire/wheel combo.

[tjh]

LittleBeast that lift is wicked . The Vx looks like it's ready to consume everything in its path .

I'm definitely going to look into getting my VX a wee bit of lift .Your photos have sold me . I was thinking 3" lift with 31s' but , after looking at your pics ... . 33s' fit just really well . Very aesthetically pleasing . Ok ,so I will want to do diff drop up front . I also would like to have the gears changed too reduce stress on the engine and maybe reclaim some gas mileage. Um, what gear ratio would I need to be back near stock ? Anyone know ?

That looks amazing !!!

[LittleBeast]

LittleBeast that lift is wicked . The Vx looks like it's ready to consume everything in its path .

I'm definitely going to look into getting my VX a wee bit of lift .Your photos have sold me . I was thinking 3" lift with 31s' but , after looking at your pics ... . 33s' fit just really well . Very aesthetically pleasing . Ok ,so I will want to do diff drop up front . I also would like to have the gears changed too reduce stress on the engine and maybe reclaim some gas mileage. Um, what gear ratio would I need to be back near stock ? Anyone know ?

That looks amazing !!!

This thread should help you out with the gears:

http://www.vehicross.info/forums/sho...t=gears&page=3

I decided that 4.77 gears are really what we need, but they are incredibly hard to find. After much searching there is still a little debate in my mind after calling around to a bunch of junkyards and such, but basically what you are looking for is:

1988-1991 Trooper with the "Big Tire Package" (which were 31"x10.5" tires and 15"x7" Honeycomb aluminum rims)

Now as far as the option code that should be stamped on the option ID plate in the engine compartment I have found two different opinions for this "Big Tire Package" the two option codes I have been told to look for are:

SL2 or S2J

Also I have heard that the 1989-90 (short wheel base) Isuzu Bighorn imported as a Trooper with a 2.6L 4cyl. had the 4.77 gears, but I am a little unsure of this and have yet to confirm this with many other sources.

As far as 5.38 go you would absolutely need to have the 35" tires and http://www.independent4x.com/ would be able to help you with all the gear stuff. The thread I listed above has all of the rpm and various gearing options with mph and everything, let me know if you don't find something there.

Honestly though I would go for the 33"s if that is what you want and wait for something to break, because a lot of people have warned me and others about the 33"s tearing up so many things with the stock gearing but outside of a few people really pushing the limits of the CV's off road I haven't heard of too many CV joints breaking. Just a though.

[LittleBeast]

I hear you there. The lift is the cheap part. I priced some mud grapplers and new rims............ Don't think I will be doing that this year. I do have to get new tires though. So 265/75/16 terra's it is for awhile.

Re-reading this thread and just thought I would update everyone that after driving on the mudd grapplers for almost 3 years and almost 50,000 miles I still have about half the tread left. And I am VERY hard on tires. I take the highway exits here in Houston way too fast and off road the VX as much as I can, and have had to lock them up in traffic a few times. But I also have rotated the tires twice a year at minimum. So even though they have a large original sticker price, for the money the mudd grapplers are the best lasting/performing tire I have ever had.