Firestone Destination M/Ts

[nfpgasmask]

I would assume acceleration would be slightly better with the xzl becuase of the stiff sidewall and the less flex. I really like those things. I would really consider those as well.

265/75/16 is what I have on currently. Pretty much a 10.5/31-32.

The "75" is the width, correct? My 245 are "70", but going up to 75 should still fit my Chambers, right?

Joe, thanks, I will wait to see what you come up with!

Bart

[etlsport]

265 is the width in mm... 70 is the amount of sidewall as a percentage of the width (ie 70% of 265mm)

[Joe_Black]

Informational...

Site that carries XZL's for Land Rover (currently out of stock) with some good info: https://www.expeditionexchange.com/michelin/

SteelSoldiers forum thread with good discussion of comparison between XL and XZL: http://www.steelsoldiers.com/index.p...wtopic&t=14184

Current listings for "michelin" at Gov't Liquidation: http://web.govliquidation.com/auctio...in&cmd=keyword

If you've got time plug in "tires" for the search, GL isn't known for being the easiest site to search but you can find some real gems just poking around there. Then again that's probably why I've got an ordnance loading system for a Harrier sitting next to the shop! Couldn't resist for only $200!

Looks like you might be looking at the 9.00X16 XZL and one place that keeps being referenced for supply is "Bill's Tires" in Pacheco CA (925.689.2678) for around $165 each. Don't know how current that info is, but it's a phone call away.

[JHarris1385]

I personally love these:

http://dirtgriptires.com/Sizes%20and...ifications.htm

[twistedsymphony]

I don't mean to bump an old topic but I was looking at tire options and after just reading reviews and comparing I came to the conclusion that the Firestone Destination M/T was the best tire for what I was looking for. Before creating a new topic I searched and found this one and figured I would add to it.

I owned a set of BFG A/T 33x12.50 R15s on a previous vehicle and I thought they were pretty good... except for the look, I thought they were a bit too docile, and I never got a chance to trail them but my experience on a few dirt roads was not promising.

My VX is primarily my winter vehicle, the NH months of heavy snow and road salt is where it will be driven daily. then in the spring, once the salt washes off the roads it will get parked as a 2nd vehicle.

I would like to take it on a few easy trails in the summer, and it will get driven when park my summer car in the garage while it's getting worked on.

Since it's not a trail vehicle first, and since maybe only 10-14 days in the winter it REALLY needs snow traction my #1 concern is on-road performance... my #2 concern is snow and ice performance and my #3 concern is dirt trails... on top of that I want the tire to look good.

the Destination M/T seems like it meets those goals well, and I've yet to read anything negative about them, every review seems to come up daises

http://www.offroaders.com/reviewbox/...duct=292&cat=3
http://www.4x4review.com/products/ti...ination-MT.asp
http://www.1010tires.com/tirereviews...e_reviews.html

It seems to have above average on-road performance as well as fantasic snow and trail performance. I liked my BFG A/Ts but they were so-so on ice, and I've ridden in a few vehicle with BFG MTs and know it doesn't have the on-road performance I'm looking for.

Does anyone have anything specifically bad about the Destinations besides the bad press Firestone got a few years ago? I mean seriously I looked into that issue heavily when it happened (I was an engineering student at the time and did a case study) and it's pretty much boild down to a combination of bad decisions by Ford, drivers who didn't keep up with maintenance, and bad luck.

From what I've read these tires were built from the ground up recently and used by Land Rover to show off their vehicles in rough terrain and display them at trade shows... not the rally heritige of the BFGs but I'm not going to be racing through the desert either... I think the kind of performance Land Rover had them built for is the kind of use I'm looking for as well.

[nfpgasmask]

I say go for it. You can be the guinea pig!

I think those tires look nice. I look forward to seeing them on a VX.

Bart