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Vehi-Cross-Az next mod: Helix Throttle Body... 03/18/2008, 11:24 AM
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johnnyapollo As far as I know there... 03/18/2008, 11:40 AM
Vehi-Cross-Az this is my answer to that 03/18/2008, 02:05 PM
etlsport so does it make the vx use... 03/18/2008, 04:23 PM
Vehi-Cross-Az as far as difference,... 03/18/2008, 02:19 PM
Chopper People buy the "Turbonator"... 03/18/2008, 04:03 PM
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  1. #1
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    next mod: Helix Throttle Body Spacer

    I actually have 2 new mods Ill be offering:
    MSD Dash Hawk (plug and play for all VXs) and our
    HELIX Throttle Body Spacers

    Ive been selling these out of my shop for a few yrs
    now

    http://www.streetandperformanceelectronics.com/hptp.htm

    for a variety of cars and suvs
    Customers repsonse has always been good.
    For the $ (about $120) they seem like a well worth mod.
    Their patented design seems to be the one asked for by name.
    I sent them an extra throttle body I had here so they could
    mock up a test piece.
    Ill have it in a few days and when I get it Ill post up a few pics
    of the before during and after install.
    And to help check the workings of it all Im going to be using this
    item from MSD.

    http://www.dashhawk.com/

    I may have time to actually take my VX to the track this weekend
    and get a 1/4 mile base time too as it sits with the muffler and
    Green drop in filter anyway.
    And then maybe try to get a time after for more accurate results.
    Seat of the pants feel, mpg etc too.

    keep you posted
    thanks
    Dayle


    Check out our VX accessories @
    www.planetsvx.com
    click on the Vehicross button on the left side
    of the page

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    pics

    and one more thing, anyone with a mid yr or late 2000
    or 01 VX I may need a favor from you.
    I may need you to take some pics of your throttle body
    at a few angles so I can see what if any differences are
    between yours and the 99-00 VXs
    thanks.

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    As far as I know there shouldn't be any difference in TBs between the years.

    Sorry to be controversial, but I don't see how that spacer is supposed to do anything other than restrict air-flow, as it's actually occuplying mores space than the solid "circle" of the TB - I don't see any real-world, measurable results so please post some if you have access to any - sounds like magic-fairy-dust-voodoo to me.

    -- John
    John Eaton
    Original Owner
    2001 Proton Yellow #580
    Atlanta GA

    http://wildtoys.com/vehicross/
    http://vehicross.blogspot.com/

    "Metaphors be with you"

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    this is my answer to that

    this is not a racing device, this is for the daily
    driver, one
    that would need better throttle response,
    drivability and fuel
    economy. with our patented design we have
    increased the air flow
    at the intake manifold port 3-8%, thus more air
    enters the engine
    at low engine speed. the increased air volume is
    detected by the
    heated oygen sensor and readjusts the fuel mix to
    a specified ratio.
    more air in, more mid power, less foot pressure to
    obtain 20-60hp
    needed to keep a vehicle at speed. the less foot
    pressure is
    using less air, thus using less fuel with the same
    power output.
    yes the thickness of the spacer is increasing the
    manifold plenum
    volume, but its the throttle body spacer design
    that allows the
    more efficient air delivery to the intake port.
    smooth bore spacers
    do not promote this type of action and thats why
    we say not all
    throttle body spacers are the same.

    On top of that all, honestly I was skeptical about them too
    myself until I started selling them and customers came
    back raving about them and their friends come back and ask
    for them by name because of how much they like them.
    So customer feedback has been overwhelming for the last
    2 yrs on them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vehi-Cross-Az View Post
    more air in, more mid power, less foot pressure to
    obtain 20-60hp
    needed to keep a vehicle at speed. the less foot
    pressure is
    using less air
    so does it make the vx use less air or more air?


    "Engineers believe if it ain't broke, it doesn't have enough features yet"

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    Quote Originally Posted by etlsport View Post
    so does it make the vx use less air or more air?
    and to answer your question,
    it would use less air and fuel, making the same power.
    at 70mph a vehicle only need 20-70rwhp. 70mph is
    about
    2000-2200rpm. thats approx 100cfm needed to run
    this
    speed. but since the VE (volume efficiency) is low
    because of low air speed the promotion of more air
    flow by volume and velocity is what makes up for
    the
    lack of without the device.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyapollo View Post
    As far as I know there shouldn't be any difference in TBs between the years.


    -- John
    as far as difference, according to the dealer mid yr 2000
    they changed the placement of I think the aic sensor on top
    and thats what Im looking into.

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    People buy the "Turbonator" and swear by it too. I don't see how stretching the intake length is gonna increase airflow. No decrease in airflow restriction, nothing pumping more air....it's nonsense. Wait!!! I need some magnets for my fuel line....there's one born every 16.345 seconds

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    Well I think it sounds interesting! It could be nothing but a noisemaker, but I'm optimistic for you...

    Let us know how everything works when it get's installed, then you can shut all these jealous naysayers up :bgwg:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chopper View Post
    Wait!!! I need some magnets for my fuel line....there's one born every 16.345 seconds
    Don't be hatin' on the fuel line magnets Chopper...I've had some for over two years & the "art" on my fridge hasn't gotten ANY closer to the floor.

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