Help!!My (VX) Is Killing My Back!!!!!!!!!!!!

[TexVeX]

I was going to recommend a chiropractor but I see you're already headed that way. I just hope you got a good one. I have chronic neck pain that only a chiropractor can make a difference in long term. Good luck.

[tom4bren]

Wifey tried the chiropractor thinggy for a couple of years but ended up needing surgery. IMHO - chiropractors can give temporary relief but nothing more.

OK - took the Proton on an 800 mile round trip last weekend (visiting family in TN). Since this topic was fresh on my mind, I really paid attention to the seats. The seats are comfortable - no doubt about it. BUT ... there is a severe lack of lumbar support AND ... too much lateral support. The combined effect is that the seats cause your back to roll forward so that you slouch. If you watch for it, you can try to keep your shoulder blades back & it helps but you still need more lumbar support to help keep your back in a better position AND to help absorb the vertical loading of your upper body to a more supportive position of the lumbar area of the spine.

I'm going to check into some of the ergonomic seat covers. I'll let you know how it works out.

[JHarris1385]

Tom - somewhere either on here or on recaro's website is instructions on how to properly sit in your recaro seat. That reading might be helpful to you. I have a horrible back and the seats in the VX are my favorite. On the note of a chiropractor. They for sure can give you long time relief, if you find the right one that is. Most these days have turned into a internal medicine doctor when it comes to healing. An internal medicine doctor or your normal doctor as you may call it only prescribes you with medicines to cover up the pain not cure (only thing they prescribe that cures is anti-biotics, and even those are changing at the hands of the drug mfg's), thus making their client base return customers. This is now apparent in the last 10 years and spreading in the chiro world. They to now give a generalized healing process in order to make you a returning customer. Even some of the tools they use are set up that way. This is because Chiro's really do have the ability to cure you but then after the cure your not paying them anymore on a monthly basis. So the point is go find one that gives a better hands on unique to the client approach, and never settle for one that pops your back on one of those breakaway tables.......If anyone ever has any questions concerning chiro's, complementary and alternative medicine/hollistic, and intergrative medicine approaches, my pm box welcomes you.

[tom4bren]

"Tom - somewhere either on here or on recaro's website is instructions on how to properly sit in your recaro seat. That reading might be helpful to you."

I'll go look - THX http://www.recaro.com/index.php?id=1393&region=3&L=2

"On the note of a chiropractor. They for sure can give you long time relief"

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt on that - it just hasn't been supported by my experience. Maybe since I'm an Engineer, I just think things through too much. NONE of the human joints were made to pop or crack and to force them to do so can not be good in my opinion. The little clicker thinggy they use to align your spine - cummon - 3 clicks of that once a week will do nothing to counteract a lifetime of misalignment. The one device that seemed to have some merit is the electroshock therapy. If used properly to fatigue appropriate muscles can have long term benefits. I'll be the first to admit that I'm no expert - I only know enough to be dangerous & that's probably the part that's talking now. IMHO - I think I'd try a Physical Therapist first to see what they could do to improve range of motion and provide muscular balance in the effected area. It probably sounds like I'm dissing Chiropractors in general & I apologize for that. I'm sure there are some out there worth their weight in gold

[JHarris1385]

I am very analytical so I understand your thoughts. However I am very educated in the medical field and do know for fact that the myth of popping knuckles and joints is bad is FALSE. In most cases it is actually a good sign of a healthy lifestyle if you have joints to pop. The popped sacs are formed from excessive movement weather it be from sports or from an accident. I have never heard of a clicker at all – and am kind of curious as to what it is and should do. I haven’t not been to a bad chiro in years so I would not know. A physical therapist should go hand in hand with a chiro though. The muscles/ligaments are what holds the foundation (bones) while in motion, so you need a properly aligned bone structure so your muscles do not get out of whack from holding improper foundation together. More often than not most cases are cuased by pure bad posture and latic acid build up in the muscles (which is easily curable – by something that is not called flexiril)

[tom4bren]

I'll agree with almost everything you said. I fail to be convinced that cracking or popping a joint is a valid treatment. Joints that crack or pop is a symptom of a problem in that joint. I know I've failed to convince you either. We'll agree to disagree & stay friends.

I haven't had any medical training other than being EMT certified for a while but my family runs deep in medical (2 doctors (both medical imaging), 2 nurse practitioners, 1 Occupational Therapist & 3 more in medical training now). I'm just used to hearing the negatives I guess.

[JHarris1385]

Multiple doctors and a number of family friended Chrio's. No doctor practices internal medicine though, they call can but do not wish to. The most prominent is my Uncle who is 63 and still taking courses and or teaching all around the world. He has practically every cetificate you can have. Has wrote a number of books and founded/invented a load of tools.
You and anyone here should honestly look into ozone treatments. I have not had a cold for years and have never had the flu in my life due to this treatment. Consuming the treatment in a liquid drinkable form cures this. But it can also be injected into problem areas. For instance I had my WHOLE and I mean whole rotator cuff/left should busted in a freak snowboarding accident and I owe all of my curing to this treatment.