Are gas cars the cigarettes of the near future?

[nfpgasmask]

That is your wishful thinking coming to in to play though! I could definitely see you taking your favorite pair of masks, guns, some ammo, maybe even reloading equipment and stashing it out in the desert some time... or have you done it already? And aren't you trying to import Mad Max's car?

In 2030, there will be Mad Bart and the solar powered Nisuzu VXterra hybrid, hunting rabbits in the Nevada promiseland which people die trying to get to. And I will be wearing a fake whip cream bikini, riding a stolen horse in the 100,000 densely populated Wyoming wasteland, still looking for some hot chick I've never met... and if I was to find her, you and I would both be completely happy!

Oh trust me dude, I know my "fantasy" of what I want the apocalypse to be is vastly different than what it will be. Yesterday, I posted a review of Idiocracy on my LJ, basically saying the same thing:

http://nfpgasmask.livejournal.com

Bart

PS - And yes, my Falcon is getting done, and it looks like I will have it within the next 3-4 months. Too bad gas will be appropriately expensive when it gets here. I will probably be sopping juice up off the road with a rag really soon.

[Chopper]

You're buying the Global Warming thing, lock, stock and barrel? Your (as a species) CO2 output, all activities included, is around 3 or 4 percent of the total....marginally insignificant by itself. A big part of that 4 percent is coal...your car just really doesn't figure into the scheme in a huge way. What has been done, that really impacts stuff, is strip away the forests. They (and the ocean) are our carbon sinks. Yeah, it's gettin' warmer, but it's not your car that is doing it....it's strip malls, and farms in Brazil.....it's the Teak table in your dining room, and your Rosewood bed. I am a radical greenie....and I love all things automotive. Do we need something else to burn? Yes, and for a lot of good reasons, but warming ain't one of them. Wanna save the earth and it's marvelous, wondrous diversity of life???? Plant a tree a day, and shoot three of the next five people you meet, right between the eyes. Actually, getting the humans out of the tropics altogether would be much more productive, and just as likely to happen.
It's all short term anyway....it seems that when the salinity of the Arctic Ocean and North Sea drops low enough, the Gulf Stream stops streaming, all of Europe enters an ice age overnight (literally) and the warming problem is solved Earth... 1.....clever hairless ape...0 Thank You for the rant, Bart

[creeg]

Im doing the electric car for 3 reasons:

1) dont have to pay for gas
2) minor environmental reasons
3) I get to say that I drive a zero-emissions car that I built.

I totally agree about the coal: an electric car is powered by coal when you get down to it. But if I understand it correctly, the pollution from a coal energy plant is less than from cars: its easier to scrub the exhaust from a coal plant than it is to scrub the tailpipe.

Also, I am not having any kids as a way to reduce pollution and overpopulation. That is probably one of the biggest ways I am reducing pollution: not reproducing.

And I do beleive that global warming is real, based on the evidence provided. sure, I could be mistaken- but then so is a lot of the world.

[nfpgasmask]

Also, I am not having any kids as a way to reduce pollution and overpopulation. That is probably one of the biggest ways I am reducing pollution: not reproducing.

CHEERS, MATE! HERE, HERE FOR ZERO POPULATION GROWTH.

But I just watched Idiocracy....and this movie almost made me want to go home and make babies with the wife. Just watch the first 10 minutes of it, and you will see what I mean!

Bart

[nfpgasmask]

Chop, I am 100% with you. I know that the climate change issue is only 1 small facet of the gloabal problem, and climate change is just an avalanche effect of ALL of the things rapidly changing on the planet, due to people. Again, this thread, was really just me thinking about how society now "looks down" on smokers, and how I think it will take twice as long for society to "look down" upon people driving gas vehicles, and how it will be too late anyhow. That, and how even if we switched to an alternative source of transportation, how we will be left with MOUNTAINS of "old" gasoline vehicles.

Bart

You're buying the Global Warming thing, lock, stock and barrel? Your (as a species) CO2 output, all activities included, is around 3 or 4 percent of the total....marginally insignificant by itself. A big part of that 4 percent is coal...your car just really doesn't figure into the scheme in a huge way. What has been done, that really impacts stuff, is strip away the forests. They (and the ocean) are our carbon sinks. Yeah, it's gettin' warmer, but it's not your car that is doing it....it's strip malls, and farms in Brazil.....it's the Teak table in your dining room, and your Rosewood bed. I am a radical greenie....and I love all things automotive. Do we need something else to burn? Yes, and for a lot of good reasons, but warming ain't one of them. Wanna save the earth and it's marvelous, wondrous diversity of life???? Plant a tree a day, and shoot three of the next five people you meet, right between the eyes. Actually, getting the humans out of the tropics altogether would be much more productive, and just as likely to happen.
It's all short term anyway....it seems that when the salinity of the Arctic Ocean and North Sea drops low enough, the Gulf Stream stops streaming, all of Europe enters an ice age overnight (literally) and the warming problem is solved Earth... 1.....clever hairless ape...0 Thank You for the rant, Bart

[Chopper]

Chop, I am 100% with you. I know that the climate change issue is only 1 small facet of the gloabal problem, and climate change is just an avalanche effect of ALL of the things rapidly changing on the planet, due to people. Again, this thread, was really just me thinking about how society now "looks down" on smokers, and how I think it will take twice as long for society to "look down" upon people driving gas vehicles, and how it will be too late anyhow. That, and how even if we switched to an alternative source of transportation, how we will be left with MOUNTAINS of "old" gasoline vehicles.

Bart

Volcanoes do a bunch more than humans, that is really where most of it comes from. As for the carcasses.....ultimately, they'll mine them....like the dumps.

[mdwyer]

Chop, I am 100% with you. I know that the climate change issue is only 1 small facet of the gloabal problem, and climate change is just an avalanche effect of ALL of the things rapidly changing on the planet, due to people. Again, this thread, was really just me thinking about how society now "looks down" on smokers, and how I think it will take twice as long for society to "look down" upon people driving gas vehicles, and how it will be too late anyhow. That, and how even if we switched to an alternative source of transportation, how we will be left with MOUNTAINS of "old" gasoline vehicles.

Bart

I think we already do look down on climate criminals. I certainly don't hold a whole lot of respect for this guy: What's wrong with this picture?
The sign is displaying the weight limit of a parking structure. Only the H3 fits under that limit. Many city streets have the exact same limit. If they actually enforced weight limits on city streets and parking structures, nobody'd be able to drive a Hummer anywhere.

Still, I can't quite make myself feel bad for buying fruit out of season and stuff like that. I'd really like to be able to take a train to places, but out in the west, we just want our cars too much. I'm certainly picking the low-hanging fruit -- I've got a programmable thermostat, CF lightbulbs, etc. But I'm still willing to spend $20 worth of gas to make it up to the mountains.

[navistar]

Is that an air intake for the engine while fording in deep water or a clean air intake for the passenger compartment or did somebody jam a golf club through his roof?

[mdwyer]

Is that an air intake for the engine while fording in deep water or a clean air intake for the passenger compartment or did somebody jam a golf club through his roof?

That's a light fixture attached to the far wall of the parking structure. Just over the wall IS a golf course, though, so I suppose the golf club is possible.


Anyway, as for cancelling Moab? I've probably got my math screwed up, but I see no problem with taking a vacation. That's something that happens, only a few times a year.

I'm under the impression that I'm doing worse things to the environment by driving a mostly-empty car all the way to work and back every weekday. Getting a more efficient daily-driver should let you be more wasteful on the weekends, right?