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    Quote Originally Posted by Bulldoggie View Post
    http://www.dailytech.com/Honda+CEO+S...ticle10147.htm

    The comments after the article with attached links pretty much covers all these debates.
    Enough to convince me to stay away from all hybrids except the Prius.
    I did own a diesel rabbit, and I must say it's a great feeling to go 530mi+ between fueling.
    Both sides of this argument are valid, I like to keep an open mind to future Tech. An indie Japanese Prof. has developed an all electric 8 wheel drive (motors in the wheels) 370kmph+ car-----Think slot car fast ... the Eliica
    http://www.drive.com.au/Editorial/Ar...eID=8754&vf=23

    P.S. Why post if your opinion doesn't matter.
    IMHO, some posters seem to want the last word on EVERY topic.
    it must be great to know so much.
    I wouldnt touch a Prius with a 10 foot crankshaft ... ashes to ashes study shows it is more damaging to the environment than a Hummer... (ashes to ashes = from the time the materials are gathered to build it until the day it gets crushed/recycled. )

    Plus they are hideous looking... and in my personal experience, their owners are often extremely arrogant... to the point of wanting to ban plastic testicles from the back of vehicles in Maryland. :P

    Aside from all of that, forget changing your own oil. Do it wrong, engine starts up right after you drain it, and you just siezed up your engine...

    Oh yea.. and dont bother trying to put a supercharger on one :P
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    Hey Spike - that "study" has been debunked. Seems the setup of the Hummer factory was left out of the equation as "unavailable" or some-such. If you'll do a search on it you'll find that's it's an attempt at misdirection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyapollo View Post
    Hey Spike - that "study" has been debunked. Seems the setup of the Hummer factory was left out of the equation as "unavailable" or some-such. If you'll do a search on it you'll find that's it's an attempt at misdirection.

    -- John
    Ok, but the rest of my comments were valid...

    oh... speaking of the 500... here is one taking a ride on a train!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aciPS...eature=related

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spike View Post
    I wouldnt touch a Prius with a 10 foot crankshaft ... Plus they are hideous looking... and in my personal experience, their owners are often extremely arrogant... to the point of wanting to ban plastic testicles from the back of vehicles in Maryland. :P

    See "Smug" episode of South Park.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ldub View Post
    See "Smug" episode of South Park.
    http://www.southparkzone.com/episode...ug-Alert!.html

    ROFL! Never caught that one... SO much truth!!!

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    You wanna see smug? The Prius drivers have got nothing on me in the EV!

    Joe is right. The Prius is merely a high-efficiency gasoline powered car, albeit a relatively big and powerful one. I will be trading it for a plug-in hybrid as soon as they come to market.

    Foreign oil is the biggest problem our country faces. Wars are not fought over electricity.

    As for changing your own oil, you can do it without a problem. Just make sure the car is off. You wouldn't change the oil with the key on in the VX, would you? You make it sound like the Prius is "Christine" or something. There are fewer moving parts in a Prius than in a Vehicross. No starter, no alternator, no slushbox, no transfer case, no second differential.

    The Prius has its flaws. But it is the most environmentally friendly (new) car you can buy besides the Tesla Roadster.

    Anyway, I digress.

    Nate

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    Quote Originally Posted by nater View Post
    You wanna see smug? The Prius drivers have got nothing on me in the EV!

    Foreign oil is the biggest problem our country faces. Wars are not fought over electricity.

    The Prius has its flaws. But it is the most environmentally friendly (new) car you can buy besides the Tesla Roadster.

    Anyway, I digress.

    Nate
    You did get the memo about smug not being a good thing, right?

    Also, you say wars are not fought over electricity?...I seem to recall a pretty good row between two dudes named Edison & Westinghouse. ( IIRC, Tesla & Kelvin were the corner men...can't remember the name of the ring girl)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ldub View Post
    You did get the memo about smug not being a good thing, right?

    Also, you say wars are not fought over electricity?...I seem to recall a pretty good row between two dudes named Edison & Westinghouse. ( IIRC, Tesla & Kelvin were the corner men...can't remember the name of the ring girl)
    Ldub,
    I always love your comments, they're great!
    I think the War over electricity was fought on Wall St. and court rooms.
    Very different kind of "smart" bombs, few if any were killed.

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    LOL! I do know somebody who is more smug than me. He has TWO RAV4-EVs, and every month he gets a statement showing how much is owed by the Dept of Water and Power. His solar panels generate all of the electricity needed to run TWO cars (20,000 miles per year EACH), all of his household needs, and then some extra. The extra electricity he sells back to the utility, and they post a credit to his account. It's grown to a few thousand dollars over the years, but they refuse to send him a check.

    Well, technically, he isn't smug, he's had an epiphany. He's also in the film "Who Killed the Electric Car."

    I've had the same epiphany, but I'm still a little smug. It's kind of like when you first got a cell phone, and you have this epiphany that you can carry a PHONE in your pocket. But what if you had a cell phone, but nobody else did? Wouldn't you tell everyone you knew? Show it to them, let them try it out? Would a landline ever be the same? Sure, it has its downsides, like it has to be charged all the time, but, damn, it's cool.

    Nate

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bulldoggie View Post
    Ldub,
    I always love your comments, they're great!
    I think the War over electricity was fought on Wall St. and court rooms.
    Very different kind of "smart" bombs, few if any were killed.
    Edison cooked an elephant to prove the inherant danger in Westinghouse's methods. We fry up humans the same way still

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