Moab ZuZoo XI 2008

[tomdietrying]

One more thing Billy.......tell me your itinerary for going to Moab.............are you still thinking about doing a day at Canyon de Chelly to check out the ruins there.

If you want to do a cool hike on Sunday, I know of a cool one. I'm saying Sunday because I know you have mountan biking plans on Monday. It's in the Cedar Mesa Area not far from where we did Hotel Rock for the VX Run VIII. It's called the Citadel Ruins. Here's a site to check it out. http://jemez.org/Citadel.htm

BTW - This is an open invite to anyone VXers who will be out in the four corners region during that time.

Peace.
Tom

[don moore]

sweet
thx

[Triathlete]

I still plan on hiking in Canyon de Chelly. It is one of those places I've wanted to go for quite some time. That will probably be on Sun morning. Then I can drive up to Moab Sun night set up camp and get up early the next day for the Mt. Biking.

MSH...don't worry about keeping up. I will be riding at an enjoyable pace. I have very little Mt Bike experience. So what I have in fitness will be outweighed by my lack of technical skills! I am thinking maybe slickrock trail unless I get a recomendation of something better. It is somewhat legandary in the Mt Bike world.

[nfpgasmask]

This thread is getting really annoying....

Hiking to ruins, mountain biking, wheeling in red rock country, possible Reno to Moab convoy with camping at Great Basin there and back, drinking lots of beer with the fam, uneven arm tans, the list goes on....

Damnit, I gotta figure this out.

Bart

[ZEUS]

This thread is getting really annoying....

Hiking to ruins, mountain biking, wheeling in red rock country, possible Reno to Moab convoy with camping at Great Basin there and back, drinking lots of beer with the fam, uneven arm tans, the list goes on....

Damnit, I gotta figure this out.

Bart

What's to figure out? See ya there!

[CrnCnn]

This thread is getting really annoying....

Hiking to ruins, mountain biking, wheeling in red rock country, possible Reno to Moab convoy with camping at Great Basin there and back, drinking lots of beer with the fam, uneven arm tans, the list goes on....

Damnit, I gotta figure this out.

Bart

I hope Linda is down for it. I think a convoy would be PHAT

[nfpgasmask]

I hope Linda is down for it. I think a convoy would be PHAT

Yes, it would be most phat. And this year I would take the full week, leaving Saturday and returning Sunday.

Bart

[nfpgasmask]

So, with Joe we are at 19.

Come on people, ONE MORE to hit 20!

Chopper, this means YOU!

Bart

[Todd Adams]

So that everyone understands what is going on Tuesday, Here are the plans (without revealing where we are headed)
1. Meet at Pack Creek Campground between 8 and 8:30 AM.
2. Leave Pack Creek at 9:00 AM (Anyone who has been on one of my trails knows that I am very punctual and I will leave with out you)
3. The trail will last most of the day so bring lunch
4. The trail for the most part is on the easy side with one spot that may or may not give problems but there are options for the daring and or not caring to keep everyone happy.
5. Barring any unforeseen problems we should be back to town early which means 4 to 5 PM.
6. Wednesday starts “ZuZoo XI” and headquarters is still up in the air but I am sure there will be someone at Pack Creek that will know what is going on.
7. If someone can find me a bottle of Sam Addams Triple Bock and bring it to Moab I will gladly pay for the service. Utah is one of those states it is not sold in.
8. Speaking of which let me go trough a couple of rules I have while leading a trial and that everyone should follow anyway.
a. No alcohol allowed by anyone on the trail. Period. Plenty of time at camp for that.
b. Seat belts must be worn by everyone while the vehicle is in motion.
c. Pack out more than you pack in.
d. Stay on the trail and never drive over any vegetation or crypto soil.
e. If you have not been to Moab before I will give a speech about the crytobiotic soil to stay off of both your vehicle and you. Remember the old saying “leave only footprints and take only pictures” leaving footprints is not acceptable any more on certain types of soil
f. You will see Indian Rock Art. DO NOT TOUCH. The acids in your hands will accelerate their deterioration.
g. If you want a spot ask. I will not offer unless you do.
h. There is only ONE SPOTTER! Only pay attention to the one you trust and if someone starts to give directions if I am (other than watching where I can’t see) I will stop and walk away. Keep in mind I am a Professional Spotter and have been at it a long time but if you trust someone else that is just fine with me and I can not always be at the right place all the time so others need to help.
i. You are responsible for the vehicle behind you. What that means is that you need to keep them in your rear view mirror all the time. The trail leader can only go as fast as the slowest vehicle and with everyone doing their job no one will take the wrong turn except me. This also means you should also try and keep up with trail speed. Also never crowd the vehicle in front. At obstacles, you need to stay within strapping distance until the vehicle behind you makes it up and then move on.
j. There will be a test on this before we leave for the trailhead

If you would like a tour one day of Rock Art sites of the area I might be talked into taking some folks out.
Todd

[tomdietrying]

Sounds like it's going to be a Super Day! I can't wait.
Peace.
Tom
012009

p.s.
I'd like to check out that other rock art with you.

[nfpgasmask]

7. If someone can find me a bottle of Sam Addams Triple Bock and bring it to Moab I will gladly pay for the service. Utah is one of those states it is not sold in.

Thanks for the reminder about bringing drinkage. I will make sure we pack accordingly.

Also Todd, I assume this is another trail that does not allow dogs, correct? I just want to be sure.

Thanks - Bart

[Todd Adams]

Thanks for the reminder about bringing drinkage. I will make sure we pack accordingly.

Also Todd, I assume this is another trail that does not allow dogs, correct? I just want to be sure.

Thanks - Bart

Nope, we are not going into one of the Parks. I had considered it but the trail I was thinking about I did 2 weeks ago with the family. We had 3 vehicles all of them with lockers and decided the hill was just not doable without some risky strapping in other words dangerous, for close to stock vehicles.
So dogs are not a problem unless you don’t trust them next to overhanging cliffs .
Todd