Quote Originally Posted by nfpgasmask View Post
That's the problem in Chicago. The lights change from green to yellow to red in like milliseconds. And because of traffic, the lights in the city cycle way faster that anywhere else I have been. AND, in most cases there are no green left turn arrows, and no turn lanes. So basically, if you need to make a left hand turn, the only way its gonna happen is if you sit in the middle of the intersection and wait for oncoming traffic to stop, and then roll through the yellow/red light. If done properly, this allows about one car to turn left on yellow each light cycle, but anyone who trains along will technically be running the red.

In my opinion, this system has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with safety, and EVERYTHING to do with generating revenue for the city...

Bart
yea cities are like that just because people are so impatient.. so if you ever get busted running a red light in a city.. 9 times out of 10 you can fight it by claiming the yellow light was not up to standard for the duration... i hang out with a bunch of civil engineers and they showed me all the calcs necessary... seen a couple of red light tickets go away from civil engineers showing these calcs to the judge