How come Republicans hide being gay?

[Chopper]

Forget the God Gene, go with, "The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind."

If I remember (it's been twenty some years) the big problem with this one is, severing the Corpus Callosum (link for the brains hemispheres) was never shown to lessen the hallucinations in schizoids did help in some epilectics. Again, not without merit, it's an interesting direction. Got a problem with the notion that writing killed the Bicameral mind and brought on conscious awareness.....seems backward.

[MrCrowley]

I have only four words to say about this topic. Dan Quayle, George Bush. Its what you dont say that hurts so bad.

I dont need any more hate after the "Kerry has conceded" and "why do republicans drive SUVs" threads. Its all summarized for me when I drove past a big fraternity house last week here at UGA and it was side by side SUVs from one end of the frat house to the other. The whole parking strip of about 15 spaces. Including a BMW X5....

[HOT_WASABI_JUNKIE]

I met this hot redhead last night, I am thinking about asking her out, I wanted to get your guys approval, you think we'd be a good couple?

www.youtube.com/watch?v=IloVNbJxg9o

[circmand]

She seems like a good fit but I cant really tell until we see if she shaves her legs and armpits.

[HOT_WASABI_JUNKIE]

I am hoping she shaves more than that!

[Chopper]

Claire hot????? uh...ok. Think I'd rather do Judy Jetson....an' I've a thing for redheads...I've married a couple of 'em :laughr:

[HOT_WASABI_JUNKIE]

Judy Jetson would probably be more inclined to drive a vehicross.

[LittleBeast]

What does everybody think of the God gene concept? I know I don't have it and where in the hell is God when you need him My eternal place

I am sorry I have not heard of the God gene concept, but it sounds pretty stupid, but it is probably conceived through some people's "different" handling of Divine Knowledge that I do not agree with.

But I can say that your question "where in the hell is God when you need him?" is a great logical question that I feel everyone that has even considered believing in a higher being should consider. Excuse me if I rephrase your quote wrong but for me when I ask that question it looks more like, "Why if there is an all knowing good Being that is in control do terrible things still happen?". To me this is a question I have wrestled with many times in my life, like when my mom was going in to have surgery to remove some cancerous parts of her body, or when I was lying in the ER at the Olympic Trials watching my dreams of competing for this great country be flushed down the drain while doctors talked about the possibilities of having to cut the staph infection out of my foot (aka amputate). These times I had to ponder your same question, "why?", "do I deserve this?", "do they deserve this?"? Any many familiar questions just like yours I have many times said "where are you God", "are you even there?" And my only consolation in these times is (apart from Romans 8:28) the thought that I am asking the question wrong. Instead of asking "Why do these terrible things still happen? Where are you God?" I now ask myself "How in the world could you (God) know what I thought yesterday, what I did last week, what I said years ago, what I will do tomorrow, how could you know all these things about me and not destroy me right now? How could you not come down and stop these mockeries of true life that are my short comings?" That to me is a better question because it puts me below God, it humbles me, it reminds me that I am not perfect, have not been perfect and will not be perfect but I am totally dependent on God for everything, even for peace in hard times. The other question "where are you, how could bad things happen if you exist?" These questions put man's situations above God Himself, as if the creator had to answer to the created. But I just wanted to let you know that I have wrestled with the same questions you have, I know what you mean totally. I know you might have asked this question as a joke, but I think it deserves more than just a glance.

[WyrreJ]

What a massive non-answer. You are imperfect so you don't deserve an answer. Well, if I am imperfect whose fault is that? Supposed to be God's fault - if he gets the credit for creation, he gets the blame too. Any creed that teaches do as I say, not as I do, is bogus.

[LittleBeast]

Any creed that teaches do as I say, not as I do, is bogus.

That is why in the Christian Faith we do believe that God came to earth in the form of His Son Jesus Christ and did show us exactly how to live by living a perfect life.

Remeber I am not trying to persuade you in anyway just trying to give my own point of view.

[LittleBeast]

Well, if I am imperfect whose fault is that? Supposed to be God's fault - if he gets the credit for creation, he gets the blame too.

I believe God created us just as we are because it is the best way for He Himself to be glorified, because we all will glorify Him one day depending on our respounce to His free gift of forgiveness for us, some will bow to their knees in judgement glorifying God's perfect justice, and some will bow to their knees in forgiveness glorifying God's perfect free gift of forgiveness.

In my opinion if we were perfect robots that had no choice but to do good and accept God that would not glorify God at all, we would be forced to submit and there would be no choice, no glorification, just a well oiled machine doing it's preprogramed thing. But if we have a choice to reject Him and yet still desire to know Him, this glorifies Him, and if we have a choice to known Him yet choose not to His judgement still glorifies Him.

Once again this is just my point of view I do not want to upset anyone, or try to tell someone they are wrong at all, just giving my point of view.

[LittleBeast]

The very definition of faith is belief without proof.

Faith - noun A belief in the value, truth, or trustworthiness of someone or something; belief and trust in God, the Scriptures, or other religious writings; a system of religious beliefs.
Belief - noun Something that is trusted or believed.
Believe - verb To accept as true or real; to hold onto religious beliefs.
(Webster's Dictionary New Revised and Expanded Edition)
I would never ever believe or have faith in something without proof. I did not come to the conclusion that the original Hebrew and Greek words of the Bible were indeed inspired by the Creator Himself lightly. I do not have a blind faith or a faith "just because that is what my parents believed." I intentionally took religion classes at Rice University with atheist teachers because I wanted to know for sure, I wanted my faith to be challenged, I wanted to have huge questions, because if there really is a God out there that has been making Himself known to His creation in many ways He would be big enough to answer these questions, I wanted to have "A belief in the value, truth, or trustworthiness of someone or something". I wanted to have a real faith, real beliefs as they are defined. Not blind faith as you describe that is simply stupid to run around as a zombie or sponge soaking up the latest new thing. So no I do not have the faith you describe at all.

I think you completely missed the point. The reason he knows that no one knows the "truth" is because you can not know something that is improvable. So you can have faith, you can believe, but you can not know. You might even be right in your faith, but you can't prove it so you can't know you are right.

Just because you or someone else views something as "improvable" does not mean that it is indeed the case. We all have varying degrees of approval for many things we hear about or see or experience as real, do we not?

So I see why you assume I missed the point and as I am reading back over what I said I myself see my folly there, because it is a complex issue and I did not do a good job of explaining myself I am sorry, but I do see your point.

My point is just because YOU have labeled something as "improvable for yourself" does not mean that it is indeed improvable unless you yourself can see the entire issue and proclaim it as unknowable by all mankind. But conversely it also means that by me saying that it is provable and has been proven to me does not mean or infer that it is provable to you or anyone else, but solely means that it is proven to me and I have faith and belief not blindly, but I do believe and trust as if it were true because it has been proven to me. Just because someone else labels my faith unknowable does not discount my faith to whatever they think, unless they have perfect knowledge of the subject and indeed then they themselves could declare it as unknowable or not.

My faith has been proven to me, and this was a very long hard fought battle believe me. I do not believe blindly, I choose to believe the Bible because it is a reliable collection of historical documents written down by eye witnesses during the lifetime of other eye witnesses, and they report supernatural events that took place in fulfillment of specific prophecies claiming that their writings are divine rather than human in origin. I do see how it seemed like I didn't know what you two meant I am sorry for the confusion guys. I do respect your points of view, but they just seem a little specific and exclusive to declare to every human that has ever lived that they cannot know something for sure, but they have to accept your view that you can never know for sure. I mean you are basically telling me I am wrong and your view is the only obvious one. I am not trying to say the same thing back to you, I do understand what you are trying to say, but in order to say that you would have to prove that it is not knowable or my personal preference is "I don't know what is provable/true/trustworthy in your life, but God has proven over and over again that He is the only faithful One in my life and I cannot convince you of this, but I know for sure for me." Once again guys I respect you and your views please respect mine, I am not saying that you have not, just reminding you that I write all these things innocently just trying to give my point of view not trying to persuade you or tell you that you are wring, but to just give my perspective. Your VX brother, Ryan

[LittleBeast]

Thank you,
I now feel I have born again in Jesus.
I renounce my evil,sinful ways and have found myself transformed in the lord.
I am now not only a born again christian, but a republican as well.
you have all convinced me of my evil, sinful, liberal ways and I am so ashamed of the way I have been talking in this forum.
God has shown me the light, and I will spend the rest of the afternoon deleting all the pornography off my computer, Flushing all my high grade marujuana and cocaine down the toilet.
I vow never to fornicate again until marriage, and probably even after as well.
I vow to vote for any candidate who is a true christian, no matter how stupid he may be.
I will join a church, one headed by a true man of god such as Jimmy Swaggert,or Jim Baker,or Ted Haggert or Jim Jones,because I need guidance by someone who knows the word of god and the meaning of life much better than say...Monty Python.
Thank you for your divine inspiration...

God bless!!

I really don't know what to say man. I tried not to seem like I was preaching or telling you that you were wrong or anything like I think you implied I was saying. I honestly was just trying to give you my perspective, because I have been reading your perspective trying to be respectful of you and your views, I just expected the same treatment back. I do not appreciate your mockery of my beliefs at all. Sorry you felt like I was worthy of this treatment. If I did or said anything wrong or upset you please let me know I was not trying to do so.

[VX crazy]

I think that was very well said Ryan!

[IndianaVX]

ive got to agree with vx crazy, and i agree with what ryan has been saying too, i just cant keep up