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Why is it that when I read Jharris' mails I always picture myself an Alex Keaton from family ties.....
Relax Bro'(). .
The USA's two party system creates some black/white opinions though, which is too bad since there's not such a thing a total evil or total goodness. so let the discussion continue. but let's leave other VX owners have the right to their opinon without taking it personal.
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DUTCHIE....YOU"RE BACK!!!! Good to hear from you. Like I keep saying, this is cathartic...let it flow.
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Has anyone contacted Rob Harvey to tell him about this thread yet? (OMG, that never gets old!!)
On that note, this thread is just like a TV show... if you don't like the content... simply stop viewing it.
Ahh, my HERO! I hadn't noticed things were so screwed up until YOU pointed it out to me! Whatever do you have in mind... what should we do to get out of all the messes our government has created for us and we for them? Surely, you must have the whole thing planned out since the world, its societies, and its individuals are, in no way, dynamic! I can see your opening pitch right now... You are standing at a podium, with the lights in your eyes and the applause from the audience drawing to a close; the attention of the world is YOURS! And when you begin to speak the world goes silent. You look calmy, right to left and back, and then with a stare of concentration you clear your throat and confidently ask... "How come Republicans hide being gay?" Tick tock, elections are coming...HWJ (W2)
At the very least this thread made people think about more than their funky little 4x4 for a bit, and give some attention to something I feel deserves attention, that is the state of our union and our world. Nobody has a monopoly on the truth, and nobody should. I have expressed opinions that can be challenged and that is a good thing.
Sent from my "two hands on a keyboard"
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Ya know,Originally Posted by ZEUS
Has anyone contacted Rob Harvey to tell him about this thread yet? (OMG, that never gets old!!)
On that note, this thread is just like a TV show... if you don't like the content... simply stop viewing it.
Ahh, my HERO! I hadn't noticed things were so screwed up until YOU pointed it out to me! Whatever do you have in mind... what should we do to get out of all the messes our government has created for us and we for them? Surely, you must have the whole thing planned out since the world, its societies, and its individuals are, in no way, dynamic! I can see your opening pitch right now... You are standing at a podium, with the lights in your eyes and the applause from the audience drawing to a close; the attention of the world is YOURS! And when you begin to speak the world goes silent. You look calmy, right to left and back, and then with a stare of concentration you clear your throat and confidently ask... "How come Republicans hide being gay?" Tick tock, elections are coming...
There was a thread about the Michael Vick dogfighting case on here that I thought was topical and it turned into a thread about how people love their dogs.I was reading the news about Sen. Craig and saw many similarities of stories I had read about this weird phenomenon of Gay bashing republicans and christians turning out to be in reality, homosexuals. I thought that story was topical and worth discussing. I never said all republicans are gay or even a majority are.I was just caught by the irony of these clean cut "family values" conservatives scrounging for gay sex in the airport crappers.I never though it would spark so much drama, but the truth is, who cares? Elections are coming up and I will have plenty more to say,and if you don't like what I have to say, tough shi†,Don't read it, and right me off as a sexually confused immigrant, or whatever, It does not matter, sticks and stones...Now excuse me while I go look for my green card and go ice my new vagina..........
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Come on, look at how you phrase everything you have to say... you knew you would spark drama - you said so in your first post! It's like you NEED to spark drama! A hypocrite calls attention to hyprocies - it's so stale it's not even ironic. Now you play the role of a coy and proud Republican riding the coat tails of his own 'shock and awe' campaign. Now that is ironic!
Here is a quote from one of MY favorite movies:
" ...Oh, I have chosen my words carefully, Persian; perhaps you should have done the same!"
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Wasabi,
Where do I begin? You start this stuff, without thinking about anything but stirring things up. I think I now know how it all went down with your stupid, alcoholic, republican mechanic. You must have said some of the same mutterings to him, that you have brought to this forum, twice now……. He slapped you down, just like you have here, you got mad, and started calling him names, again, and then grouping him with all the other “stupid, alcoholic, (after your latest, GAY) republicans. And now here we are again, and I look like the bad guy picking on you. I have given you 2 opportunities to say something worth reading. And its always the same……yawn.
Your copy and paste job is weak, but again, not an original thought, getting used to that. Lets go thru your last “rant”, and I will point out where your thinking or information is wrong, in MY opinion, from being mis-informed, or drawing wrong conclusions or just believing something that’s not true……..
You are right Indiana,
I shouldn't Bush bash, because hey,it's like me tripping an athlete sprinting to win the 50 yard dash at the special olympics. Can't have that.
Its not the point that you shouldn’t bash Bush. I cant say that I am in agreement with everything that he has done, or has considered doing. What I am saying is all you have done so far is bash Bush, or republicans, after making the assumption that all republicans are closet homosexuals. I wont comment on your analogy……..
I should be focusing on the Dems, because they have been in power the last 7 years and have had control of the House and Senate and got us into this mess. Oh wait no, that's not true, they have had only partial control since last election when America handed the GOP their walking papers and voted out every Republican that could be voted out. Wonder why that happened?
Not that I pay attention to polls, but this new congress that was voted in, has the lowest approval rateing ever……I think its like 18%. No, don’t focus on the democrats 8 yrs prior to the bush administration. Or the 5 or 6 times there was information on bin laden, and his whereabouts, and nothing was done. Yes, its true that the scale was tipped, but what good has come from it. The democratic voter was hoodwinked into thinking there would be all these changes, that they were going to clean up this “mess”, when all they have done is delay things, and make it harder to WIN this war. This congress is more concerned about witch hunts, and earmarks.
Bush has vowed to veto (and has) any legislation that would bring our boys home.That is a fact. He already has.
ARE YOU FOR REAL???? Bush has done no such thing, I would be mad as all get out if the president vowed to never bring our MEN, AND WOMEN home….. (here is where you say you were wrong, like you said you weren’t afraid to do, when you were…..) Bush “vowed” to veto any legislation THAT HAD A TIME TABLE FOR TROOP WITHDRAWAL!!! So, what do the democrats decide to do? They put a timetable for troop withdrawal, not once, not twice, but three times, before they understood. I wont go into details on why telling our enemy when we are leaving is a bad idea.
Comparing the "War on Terrorism" to World War II is an interesting angle though. Even Bush said "this is a new kind of war", problem is, He is fighting it
in an old kind of way. Terrorists can be anywhere, they are not a country. They could be a few guys living in New Jersey. So how does invading Iraq stop those guys from bombing a subway? It doesn't!
My obvious comparison to WW2 was that there was mass genocide going on, a threat of weapons that could be used against us,(U.S.A.) and or our allies, and the death toll rose at a much faster rate, than it has in this war. Not saying that’s a good thing, I’m just saying that there wasn’t a call to withdraw troops then, or saying that the war is lost, and our troops are murderers and rapist. We supported our troops, and they made us proud, as our troops make me proud now. If Bush was fighting this war in an “old kind of way” there would be a lot more bombs being dropped, in a lot more places. Instead, we are trying to be a bit more “selective” on who we send to see Allah, and the virgins.
Bill Clinton tried to bomb Osama bin laden's camp years before 9-11, And to date he came closer to making Osama Bin Laden a grease spot than Bush has ever dreamed of. Bill Clinton was a Democrat right?
Yes, Bill was a democrat………worried about impeachment……. And here on this point is my admission, that you are right! Clinton got closer than even that time he bombed those tents, when, (crap,) I think it was Pakistan, (feel free to correct me) was ready to hand ole bill, bin laden on a silver platter. But did he choose to, no, because terrorisom had nothing to do with saving his own skin, so America could deal with bin laden later, besides, what kind of threat could he impose??? Hmm, does the Cole come to mind, among others??
I find it funny that Americans are pretty much all immigrants but some Americans have such disdain for immigrants that don't share the same language or skin color or financial means.It is like the spoiled child on the playground who thinks he owns the slide because he was the first one to touch it. Neener neener!
Again, I have to explain MYSELF, I don’t have a problem with LEGAL immigration. We have laws, and procedures for becoming a U.S. citizen. And that system has its flaws too, but it has worked for years. But to just automatically say to millions of illegals, that you are now legal, that just cant happen, or shouldn’t happen. Many immigrants have gone thru our process, and worked hard to become productive appreciative Americans, not just to come over, and be an addition to our welfare system, and a burden to our health care. Let alone, changing our national language from English to Spanish…..after all, its too much to ask them to come here legally, let alone to ask them to learn English.
Don't think my disdain is just aimed at the republicans. I am mad at the Democrats for not calling out the republicans more for running this country so stupidly, without forethought, or any regard for the future of people at home and abroad.
Again, I don’t agree with everything the republicans are doing either, but I have to ask…….
Who do I feel can defend America better? democrat, or republican
Who do I feel will keep taxes low? democrat, or republican
Who will be strong on the issue of immigration? democrat, or republican
Who will defend the best healthcare system in the world? democrate, or republican
Who will work to keep a strong economy? democrate, or republican
But what makes America great is that we always strike a balance,For every Rush Limbaugh, there is a Bill Mahar,
No one listens to the liberal media, and those that do, are even getting tired of the constant droll. Bill mahar, pssht, there isn’t even a comparison to rush, sean, savage, or any other conservative talk show host. And its quite clear, this has the liberals worried…… which is why the liberals are working on the fairness doctrine? Do you even know what that is or read anything about that?? Im sure you will agree with it.
For every George Bush,There is a Hillary Clinton, and for every Indianavx,There is a hot wasabi junkie.
Whatever………
That's what keeps the country from becoming too conservative or too liberal.
A balance is always struck.
Come next November,I think the scales will tip in a better direction..........
Yeah, back to the right……
Well, I will probably just lurk this thread from this point on, not because I think I won, or you lost, but because my interest in this thread was to see what a democrat such as yourself are excited to see in the democrat party, or give me some positive things you think they are doing……anything…… but instead, all ive gotten out of this thread is how you can beat a drum, over and over, and throw out insults towards me, republicans, or anyone else not agreeing with you. Let alone jabs on spelling, or making fun of where I or jharris live. Real mature, real intellectual, Im sorry that my cordless keyboard sometimes messes up spelling, so just for you, I spell checked this for you…….
Im going back to talking about vx’s,
PS. Another 20 guest will be attending Friday……lol
Last edited by IndianaVX : 09/04/2007 at 09:15 PM Reason: color didnt work.....
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Jane, you ignorant slut......Wasabi,
Where do I begin? You start this stuff, without thinking about anything but stirring things up. I think I now know how it all went down with your stupid, alcoholic, republican mechanic. You must have said some of the same mutterings to him, that you have brought to this forum, twice now……. He slapped you down, just like you have here, you got mad, and started calling him names, again, and then grouping him with all the other “stupid, alcoholic, (after your latest, GAY) republicans. And now here we are again, and I look like the bad guy picking on you. I have given you 2 opportunities to say something worth reading. And its always the same……yawn.
Your copy and paste job is weak, but again, not an original thought, getting used to that. Lets go thru your last “rant”, and I will point out where your thinking or information is wrong, in MY opinion, from being mis-informed, or drawing wrong conclusions or just believing something that’s not true……..
You are right Indiana,
I shouldn't Bush bash, because hey,it's like me tripping an athlete sprinting to win the 50 yard dash at the special olympics. Can't have that.
Its not the point that you shouldn’t bash Bush. I cant say that I am in agreement with everything that he has done, or has considered doing. What I am saying is all you have done so far is bash Bush, or republicans, after making the assumption that all republicans are closet homosexuals. I wont comment on your analogy……..
I should be focusing on the Dems, because they have been in power the last 7 years and have had control of the House and Senate and got us into this mess. Oh wait no, that's not true, they have had only partial control since last election when America handed the GOP their walking papers and voted out every Republican that could be voted out. Wonder why that happened?
Not that I pay attention to polls, but this new congress that was voted in, has the lowest approval rateing ever……I think its like 18%. No, don’t focus on the democrats 8 yrs prior to the bush administration. Or the 5 or 6 times there was information on bin laden, and his whereabouts, and nothing was done. Yes, its true that the scale was tipped, but what good has come from it. The democratic voter was hoodwinked into thinking there would be all these changes, that they were going to clean up this “mess”, when all they have done is delay things, and make it harder to WIN this war. This congress is more concerned about witch hunts, and earmarks.
Bush has vowed to veto (and has) any legislation that would bring our boys home.That is a fact. He already has.
ARE YOU FOR REAL???? Bush has done no such thing, I would be mad as all get out if the president vowed to never bring our MEN, AND WOMEN home….. (here is where you say you were wrong, like you said you weren’t afraid to do, when you were…..) Bush “vowed” to veto any legislation THAT HAD A TIME TABLE FOR TROOP WITHDRAWAL!!! So, what do the democrats decide to do? They put a timetable for troop withdrawal, not once, not twice, but three times, before they understood. I wont go into details on why telling our enemy when we are leaving is a bad idea.
Comparing the "War on Terrorism" to World War II is an interesting angle though. Even Bush said "this is a new kind of war", problem is, He is fighting it
in an old kind of way. Terrorists can be anywhere, they are not a country. They could be a few guys living in New Jersey. So how does invading Iraq stop those guys from bombing a subway? It doesn't!
My obvious comparison to WW2 was that there was mass genocide going on, a threat of weapons that could be used against us,(U.S.A.) and or our allies, and the death toll rose at a much faster rate, than it has in this war. Not saying that’s a good thing, I’m just saying that there wasn’t a call to withdraw troops then, or saying that the war is lost, and our troops are murderers and rapist. We supported our troops, and they made us proud, as our troops make me proud now. If Bush was fighting this war in an “old kind of way” there would be a lot more bombs being dropped, in a lot more places. Instead, we are trying to be a bit more “selective” on who we send to see Allah, and the virgins.
Bill Clinton tried to bomb Osama bin laden's camp years before 9-11, And to date he came closer to making Osama Bin Laden a grease spot than Bush has ever dreamed of. Bill Clinton was a Democrat right?
Yes, Bill was a democrat………worried about impeachment……. And here on this point is my admission, that you are right! Clinton got closer than even that time he bombed those tents, when, (crap,) I think it was Pakistan, (feel free to correct me) was ready to hand ole bill, bin laden on a silver platter. But did he choose to, no, because terrorisom had nothing to do with saving his own skin, so America could deal with bin laden later, besides, what kind of threat could he impose??? Hmm, does the Cole come to mind, among others??
I find it funny that Americans are pretty much all immigrants but some Americans have such disdain for immigrants that don't share the same language or skin color or financial means.It is like the spoiled child on the playground who thinks he owns the slide because he was the first one to touch it. Neener neener!
Again, I have to explain MYSELF, I don’t have a problem with LEGAL immigration. We have laws, and procedures for becoming a U.S. citizen. And that system has its flaws too, but it has worked for years. But to just automatically say to millions of illegals, that you are now legal, that just cant happen, or shouldn’t happen. Many immigrants have gone thru our process, and worked hard to become productive appreciative Americans, not just to come over, and be an addition to our welfare system, and a burden to our health care. Let alone, changing our national language from English to Spanish…..after all, its too much to ask them to come here legally, let alone to ask them to learn English.
Don't think my disdain is just aimed at the republicans. I am mad at the Democrats for not calling out the republicans more for running this country so stupidly, without forethought, or any regard for the future of people at home and abroad.
Again, I don’t agree with everything the republicans are doing either, but I have to ask…….
Who do I feel can defend America better? democrat, or republican
Who do I feel will keep taxes low? democrat, or republican
Who will be strong on the issue of immigration? democrat, or republican
Who will defend the best healthcare system in the world? democrate, or republican
Who will work to keep a strong economy? democrate, or republican
But what makes America great is that we always strike a balance,For every Rush Limbaugh, there is a Bill Mahar,
No one listens to the liberal media, and those that do, are even getting tired of the constant droll. Bill mahar, pssht, there isn’t even a comparison to rush, sean, savage, or any other conservative talk show host. And its quite clear, this has the liberals worried…… which is why the liberals are working on the fairness doctrine? Do you even know what that is or read anything about that?? Im sure you will agree with it.
For every George Bush,There is a Hillary Clinton, and for every Indianavx,There is a hot wasabi junkie.
Whatever………
That's what keeps the country from becoming too conservative or too liberal.
A balance is always struck.
Come next November,I think the scales will tip in a better direction..........
Yeah, back to the right……
Well, I will probably just lurk this thread from this point on, not because I think I won, or you lost, but because my interest in this thread was to see what a democrat such as yourself are excited to see in the democrat party, or give me some positive things you think they are doing……anything…… but instead, all ive gotten out of this thread is how you can beat a drum, over and over, and throw out insults towards me, republicans, or anyone else not agreeing with you. Let alone jabs on spelling, or making fun of where I or jharris live. Real mature, real intellectual, Im sorry that my cordless keyboard sometimes messes up spelling, so just for you, I spell checked this for you…….
Im going back to talking about vx’s,
PS. Another 20 guest will be attending Friday……lol
I could easily refute 95% of the inaccurate spin you just spun, because a lot of it is what you heard second hand on Fox news or that pill popping Rush Limbaugh. The truth is I am still trying to stop laughing at the fact that even though you used "spellcheck" you spelled Democrat with an "E" at the end.Do you and Rush have the same pharmacist ? But I do admire you passion and your ability to champion mediocrity with such conviction. I admonish you not to lurk, but speak your mind,....
Oh yeah, and another thing, Obama and Hillary would make excellent leaders. They both have worked to get where they are and did not get there by riding on daddy's coat tails.George Bush was born on third base and thinks he hit a triple. Maybe Rush has not clued you in yet, But it is obvious that if Hillary does win, it is not only because of her own popularity,but her husbands as well.Everyone wants Bill Clinton back in the White House any way they can get him in there.If Bill Was allowed to seek another term against Bush, who do you think would win?
Last edited by HOT_WASABI_JUNKIE : 09/04/2007 at 10:32 PM
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Ok, I made the whole Sen. Craig story up in my head. It is based on some weird dream I had. Of course I knew people would have varied opinions but if you read this thread from start to finish,it was never meant to do anything but make people throw in their two cents and have an interesting discourse, and that is exactly what happened.The truth is, this is the most viewed thread on here,so people may be interested in reading about more in this forum than polishing cladding.I always find it is the losing team that gets pissy when they are way behind in the game and know they are going to lose. A winning team just plays ball.So for all the republicans in here who really want to prove they are not gay and fight for Iraqi freedom, George Bush and Apple pie, I got a one way ticket to bagdhad for ya'all. Happy nation building and don't forget your kevlar!
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Why is it that when I read Jharris' mails I always picture myself an Alex Keaton from family ties.....
Relax Bro'( ). .
That is so funny I was just thinking that after reading Wasabi's posts he reminded me of Larry Finkelstein from Dharma and Greg
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Dang,
I don't think I ever watched a single episode of Dharma and Greg. Sit-coms are not really my bag. Was Larry a sexually confused immigrant?
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ha ha, good old Larry, yeah I see your point. Wasabi you should watch it though, it's quiet funny.That is so funny I was just thinking that after reading Wasabi's posts he reminded me of Larry Finkelstein from Dharma and Greg
You let yourself get drawn to deep in what was supposed to be a relaxed discussion, time now to let it go, and it ends as it was supposed to end, no losers and no winners.
Last words though(can't help myself, I'm Dutch), the person who deserves presidency most is the person who had enough back bone to stand up against Bush's ridiculous plans to invade Iraq. The one person who wouldn't let himself get bullied in participating in this wasteful war. A person who didn't change his/her diet from French to Freedom. A person who doesn't need to score points by rushing the troops back home in a hurry.. Find yourself that person whether he/she is democrat or republican and there you have yourself a respectable president.
Oh and if you still think the war in Iraq was justified then you're either a brainwashed monkey or an Alex Keaton
Ok... I moved the thread to "Chit-Chat" so anyone wishing to read about VX subjects wont be suckered in to this one.
I love a good forum for discussion but this is getting Jerry Springerish. It happens every couple of years and no one wins in these discussions - everyone gets bloody, except for the few that come in just to flame things up and watch the melee (you know who you are), and someone inevitably leaves the membership. Not that my opinion matters but if you continue flinging those chairs try not to aim for the head...
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You can still catch in reruns. But no Larry was not sexually confused. He was confused about everything else. He was a balding pony tailed drug burn out from the sixties who thought the moon landing never took place. And like most rabid liberals thought people with stuff should be willing to share everything with those that did not. He of course had nothing to share.
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Well that's an interesting way to describe me.
But the truth is I still have almost all my hair and I only caught the tail end of the Sixties, and was more interested in breast feeding at that time than experimental drug use.
I don't consider myself a rabid liberal. I own a small business and close to a million dollars worth of property in one of the most sought after, expensive towns, in one of the most sought after , expensive states in the country.
All things considered I should be a republican.
Because I am one of those white guys with a dedicated home theater in his home, a full bar, a swimming pool, employees, kids, taxes, you name it...
But since I was a kid I have always had an interest in politics.I have always been a bit of a news junkie as well.
And in my humble opinion the Republican party has always been shady and underhanded. Starting with Watergate, Iran-Contra,"the axis of evil" the war on drugs,"Read my lips, no new taxes", Blow Job impeachments,and of course the ßull**** blood for oil war we let ourselves get suckered into.
But like I said before, I voted in our Republican Govenator and think he is doing a great job. He can actually string a cohesive sentence together in his thick Austrian accent better than some other elected officials I know who were born and educated in this country.
Sorry, George Bush is an Idiot and it is obvious to all he is in way over his head.
Sept 11 is coming up. Do you all remember the look on GWB's face when he was told the nation is under attack? Instead of jumping up and springing into action, He sat frozen their like a deer in the headlights, and remained motionless for like 10 minutes waiting for his pants to dry. I think even Dan Quaile could have handled that one better.
Oh well, it is time for me to go drop some acid and start a website on how the moon landing was staged.
Peace.
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Well said David (IndianaVX).
Wasabi, seriously did you really think this was not going to cause this kind of outcome?
I have noticed that your only numbers or facts were the ones you copied and pasted. Your own thoughts and knowledge were mere finger pointing and name calling.
Some background on me. I am politically charged. My father was state rep. in the 80's and early 90's, served as city and county judge... I have had many political science courses in the past and present. I am a member of the nation young republicans (ages 18-40). The list goes on...
Other than this forum I also visit a local and national political forum where I spend my time discussing such topics. If you like I could copy and past my statements on here from that forum. But I have yet to do so becuase for some reason this topic seems out of place and a waste of my time to discuss in two places. I could only imagine what it would be like for a member to ask how to change the oil in his camry on the political forum. Granted, this is an open forum with no guidelines so I accept. However I will advise that if you do have questions and political concerns please visit a poltical forum either national or local, and or seek guideance by taking a course at a local community college. There is alot to be learned.
I at this point stand by the fact that this is waste of time and effort to debate on here becuase you (Wasabi) will never accept obvious defeat, but will in fact just continue to post replies like your past ones. I can only imagine your response. Side note: I think your rant here should cost you at least $20.
Dutchie, welcome back from lurkville. My best friends is German (only referenced since he is not American) and you act just like him. I will tell you the same thing. I do not wish such actions, but I would like to see how your leaders react to a terriost attack of the same nature that was placed on us.
Oh and by the way I picture you as Jonathan Quan "data" from the movie The Goonies.
P.S. I did not use spell checker and do not see the use of it since this is a forum and not a term paper. If you want to be technical, overlook your past posts.
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