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    Wasabi crunch some numbers on here for facts.
    If you dont have numbers and only have finger pointing and name calling, then I suggest you hit the books.[/QUOTE]


    Here are some Numbers for the bean counters in here...

    Cost of Violence in Iraq
    • Number of U.S. troops killed in Iraq as of May 1, 2003: 139 [DoD, 6/12/07]

    • Number of U.S. troops killed in Iraq: 3,506 [DoD, 6/12/07]

    • Number of U.S. service members wounded in Iraq: 25,950 [DoD, 6/12/07]

    • Number of wounded in action and unable to return to duty: 11,667 [DoD, 6/12/07]

    • Number of U.S. troops killed in May: 127 – the third most deadly month for U.S. troops since the war
    began [icasualties.org, 6/12/07]

    • Number of U.S. troops killed so far this month (June): 35 [icasualties.org, 6/12/07]

    • Percent of U.S. troops killed in Iraq over the past three months who have been casualties of makeshift
    explosives: 80 [New York Times, 6/2/07]

    • Number of insurgents in Iraq in November 2003: 5,000 [Brookings Institution, 6/7/07]

    • Number of insurgents in Iraq in March 2007: 70,000 (Sunni only) [Brookings Institution, 6/7/07]

    • Number of multi-fatality bombings in May 2004: 9 [Brookings Institution, 6/7/07]

    • Number of multi-fatality bombings in May 2007: 42 [Brookings Institution, 6/7/07]

    • Estimated number of people killed by multiple fatality bombings since May 2003: 12,830 [Brookings
    Institution, 6/7/07]

    • Number of civilian casualties in Iraq since U.S.-led invasion: estimates range from 54,000 – 76,500
    [Brookings Institution, 6/7/07]

    • Average number of daily attacks by insurgents in July 2003: 16 [Brookings Institution, 6/7/07]

    • Average number of daily attacks by insurgents between November 2006 and February 2007: 149 [Brookings
    Institution, 6/7/07]

    Cost of the War to American Taxpayers
    • Amount appropriated for the Iraq War so far: $476.8 billion

    • Approximate amount U.S. currently spending in Iraq per month: $8 billion [CRS, 9/22/06]

    • Amount in President Bush’s request for new DOD spending for the wars in Iraq & Afghanistan: $235
    billion (including a FY07 supplemental of $93 billion and a FY08 supplemental of $142 billion)

    Strain on the Military
    • Number of U.S. troops currently in Iraq as of May 2007: 144,202 [CRS, 5/2/07]

    • Number of Army soldiers and Marines notified last month of potential deployment to Iraq this fall: 35,000 –
    unrelated to the “surge” [MSNBC, 5/11/07]

    • Number of U.S. troops that have served more than one tour in Iraq or Afghanistan: 487,377 [DoD, 4./30/07]

    • Number of active duty military who have been deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan since 2001: 1.1 million
    [DoD, 4/30/07]

    • Number of National Guard and Reservists who have been deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan since 2001:
    425,179 [DoD, 4/30/07]

    • Number of National Guard and Reservists that have served two or more tours since September 2001:
    95,344 [DoD, 4/30/07]

    • Percent of troops currently deployed who are in the National Guard and Reserves: 21 [DoD, 4/30/07]

    • Number of months longer Army troops in Iraq have to serve as a result of a blanket tour extension order
    issued by the Pentagon: at least 3 months [Pentagon, 4/11/07]

    • Percent of the Army’s available active duty combat brigades that have served at least a 12-month tour in
    Iraq or Afghanistan: 100 [Washington Post, 9/14/06]

    • Length of average mobilization for Reserve & National Guard members: 18 months [Washington Post, 11/5/06]

    • Length of combat tours for Iraqi military: 90 days [Washington Post, 6/2/07]

    • Number of active duty or reserve brigades in the U.S. considered “combat ready”: 0 [CSM, 9/22/06]

    • Percent of National Guard or Reserve units so poorly equipped they are rated “not ready”: 88 [Washington
    Post, 3/2/07]

    • Amount of essential equipment the Army National Guard has on-hand here at home: 30% [GAO Testimony,
    9/21/06]

    • Amount Army needs to repair or replace equipment destroyed/deteriorated in Iraq: $66.1 billion [CBS/AP,
    9/25/06]

    • Amount of time Army needs to catch up on backlog of equipment repairs generated from Iraq war: 3 years
    [ABC News, 2/10/07]

    Reconstruction Problems and Lack of Accountability
    • Amount Iraqi government says is needed over the next 4 years to rebuild country’s infrastructure: $100
    billion [Reuters, 10/31/06]

    • Amount of Iraqi reconstruction funds unaccounted for by the Coalition Provisional Authority: $8.8 billion
    [Boston Globe, 4/6/06]

    • Tons of cash shipped to Iraq in December 2003 and June 2004 under the authority of the U.S.-led
    Coalition Provisional Authority: 363 [Reuters, 2/12/07]

    • Amount of the $11.8 million worth of U.S.-financed electrical generators at Baghdad airport that are no
    longer working: $8.6 million [NYT, 4/29/07]

    • Number of hours per day of electricity in Baghdad prior to the war: 16-24 [Brookings Institution, 6/7/07]

    • Number of hours per day of electricity in Baghdad, May 2007: 5.6 [Brookings Institution, 6/7/07]

    • Oil production – barrels per day – prior to the war: 2.5 million [Brookings Institution, 6/7/07]

    • Oil production – barrels per day – June 2007: 2.06 million [Brookings Institution, 6/7/07]

    • Unemployment rate in Iraq May 2007: estimates range from 25% to 40% [Brookings Institution, 6/7/07]

    • Average rate of inflation in Iraq in 2006: 50% [DoD, 3/07]

    • Amount the U.S. has allocated to private contractors for reconstruction and rebuilding efforts in Iraq since
    the beginning of the war. $50 billion [60 Minutes, 2/12/06]

    • Amount of taxpayer dollars squandered by the government in reconstruction contracts according to U.S.
    auditors: $10 billion [CNN, 2/15/07]

    • Amount of taxpayer money spent by Halliburton that the Defense Contract Audit Agency has deemed
    either excessive or insufficiently documented: $1.47 billion [Boston Globe, 6/28/05]

    • White House office that helped facilitate a no-bid Iraq reconstruction contract worth $7 billion to
    Halliburton: Vice President Cheney [GAO, June 2004]

    • Amount Halliburton has received in “cost plus” contracts for Iraq reconstruction: $25.7 billion [House
    Oversight and Government Reform Committee, Democratic Staff, 3/07]

    • Amount the “virtual pandemic” of corruption costs Iraq each year according to the Special Inspector
    General of Iraq Reconstruction: more than $5 billion [Associated Press, 4/30/07]

    • Number of weapons bought by the U.S. intended for Iraqi troops that are now missing: 14,030 [SIGIR, 10/29/06]

    Terrorism & Weapons of Mass Destruction
    • Days since 9/11 attacks that Osama bin Laden has remained free: 2,101 [6/12/07]

    • Estimated minimum number of nuclear weapons likely produced by North Korea during the Bush
    Administration: 7 [Reuters, 10/26/06]

    • Estimated number of centrifuges in Iran’s main nuclear facility producing reactor-grade uranium: 1,300
    [New York Times, 5/14/07]

    • Percent decrease in funding for the Cooperative Threat Reduction Program to contain loose nuclear
    material under the President’s Fiscal Year 2008 budget from 2006: 23 [Armed Forces Journal, 5/07]

    Public Opinion
    • Percent of Americans who think the country is off on the wrong track: 75 [AP/IPSOS, 6/8/07]

    • Percent of Americans who say the war in Iraq is going badly: 76 [New York Times/CBS Poll, 5/24/07]

    • Percent of Americans who think the Bush Administration is not meeting the needs of Iraq war veterans
    here at home: 70% [WNBC/Marist College, 5/25/07]

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    looks like you hit up some wikipedia. now your next assignment is take those numbers and compare them to any other war in history and look at how was in office then as well.


    Since your just a lurker on here and dont donate and have no pictures. I picture you as a sexually confused immagrant. No offense.

    It is just quite as easy for me to say that as it is for you to google up something and post it without probably reading every line.

    Like I said hit the books. All of those bullets were not relevant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JHarris1385
    looks like you hit up some wikipedia. now your next assignment is take those numbers and compare them to any other war in history and look at how was in office then as well.


    Since your just a lurker on here and dont donate and have no pictures. I picture you as a sexually confused immagrant. No offense.

    It is just quite as easy for me to say that as it is for you to google up something and post it without probably reading every line.

    Like I said hit the books. All of those bullets were not relevant.
    You did ask for numbers did you not?

    I gave you what you asked for.

    Don't ask questions if you are afraid of the answers.

    And I am guessing those bullets are relevant to the families who's son's and daughter's came home in body bags.

    And as for the sexually confused Immigrant comment.No offense taken.

    It would be nice if you guys from Indiana could spell some of the big words you use in here.I guess I will chalk that up to the "ed-u-macation" you guys must receive in the backwoods "Hoosier"state.

    And I do have pics, and I will upload more,But I have to take my black *** to the doctor because I am getting a sex change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HOT_WASABI_JUNKIE
    I have to take my black *** to the doctor because I am getting a sex change.
    I might be wrong here, but I don't think that's the part you take to the doctor when you get a sex change.

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    Nothing like pissing on a hornets nest...
    This thread has had more drama than than "Beverly Hills 90210" ...Angry conservatives, disgruntled liberals, members coming out of the closet, insults, and members vowing never to return again.At the very least this thread made people think about more than their funky little 4x4 for a bit, and give some attention to something I feel deserves attention, that is the state of our union and our world. Nobody has a monopoly on the truth, and nobody should. I have expressed opinions that can be challenged and that is a good thing. This thread expressed different opinions, and I think this is still America right? I hold no ill will and can agree to disagree with anyone who does not believe the same as me.So lighten up everyone, we all still have really cool cars!

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    [QUOTE=HOT_WASABI_JUNKIE]Nothing like pissing on a hornets nest...
    This thread has had more drama than than "Beverly Hills 90210" ...Angry conservatives, disgruntled liberals, members coming out of the closet,

    how can i come out of a closet i was never in? You just didn't know until you started this (GAY THREAD).

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    I stand corrected...

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    i must say wasabi the (GAY THREAD) has been quite entertaining lmfao.

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    It may surprise some people in here that I supported Arnold "The Govenator" Schwarzenegger (R) in the last California election and I would vote for him again. I wish he could run for president, He would have my vote, but he was born in Austria, and is one of those pesky immigrants that are not eligible for that office. I don't really consider myself a democrat, but just a guy who wants to see the smartest, most qualified candidates be placed where they can do the most good.

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    "Rush, Sean, Savage" quote from IndianaVX , You lost all creditability in that one sentence. Sorry Dude game over.
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