It was not a complete waste of time. I had fun reading it - some of it got way too long winded then I got bored. Otherwise, like Chopper said, you get to learn more about the people here with threads like this.
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It was not a complete waste of time. I had fun reading it - some of it got way too long winded then I got bored. Otherwise, like Chopper said, you get to learn more about the people here with threads like this.
Sent from my "two hands on a keyboard"
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I cant remember who said it but it goes like this; If you are a Republican before you are 30 you are uncaring of your fellow man but if you are Democratic after you are 30 you are an idiot. The idea is when you are under 30 you do not have a lot and are open to the idea of everyone sharing because you are likely to end up with more, but after 30 years you mostly have worked hard and started getting some stuff so the idea of giving some of it up to someone who hasn't is not as attractive.
Just like you see Osama Bin Laderhosen calling for Muslims to blow themselves up you do not see him doing it
Just like we all have heard John Lennon singing for everybody to share and get along most of his wealth ended up in Yoko or Seans hands.
Now many here think George W is the first person to start a war or that the Middle East was all peaceful and happy before we attacked Iraq. Well that isn't true or old Bill Clinton would not have ever negotiated ever lasting peace in the Middle East about 6 times during the 8 years he was in charge. I seem to remember he started the war in Afghanistan and used up all of our smart bombs without ever arranging to build more. As a matter of fact he had the military bomb the Chinese Embassy and a milk factory and an aspirin plant and turned down India when they offered us Bin Laden when we accused him of the first Trade Center bombing.
Now old GW he has made more mistakes than a cow has nipples over the War in Iraq but only one Senator voted against giving him the power to do so. And quite frankly I do not beleive the Democrats who say yeah we voted for it but we did not expect him to do it. They are either lieing or they thought he would not do it and they could use that as proof that they were strong on National Defense and the Republicans are weak.
It astounds me that the Democrats are constantly saying on one hand he is doing all this stuff and fooling them and such but on the other hand saying he is an idiot. Well if he is an idiot what does that say about the Democrats who have been consistantly fooled by him for the last 6 years?
All politicians suck and anyone who beleives one side over the other is such a moron thatthey should not be allowed to vote.
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Originally Posted by circmand
Actually, it is: if you are a Republican before you are 30, you have no heart, and if you are a Democrat after you turn 30, you have no brain.
[/QUOTE]All politicians suck and anyone who beleives one side over the other is such a moron thatthey should not be allowed to vote.[/QUOTE]
lol-if one did not believe one side over the other then they wouldn't know who to vote for anyway and probably wouldn't. I follow the lesser of two (or sometimes three) evils philosophy myself
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Exactly, WyrreJ. I have no FAITH in anything man-made. God is a concept concieved by man and the bible was written by people. I believe that the bible is a series of stories designed to help guide people through life, and help them understand things that were at one time (and in some cases still) not understood. Nothing more.
And if there is a higher power, or some sort of force swaying things back and forth, then it is something that NO ONE on earth can identify. It is something we cannot even imagine or even begin to explain. For a person, or a group of people to believe that they in fact CAN explain it, is either utterly pompous, or stupidly insane. Only in death may the real meaning of life become apparent, but then again, we might just turn into soulless dust...
Like WyrreJ said above, I think you misunderstood what I was saying. I am saying exactly the opposite. NO ONE has a perfect knowledge of ANYTHING!
The only thing I believe in is nature. It is the only "God" I will ever "Pray" to, because it is this planet that gives us life. Not Jesus, not George W., not Allah and not money. Its water and sunshine and apples. We are all just animals. I know you religious people will scoff at that, but that is what I think. All of the "emotions" that make us human, are just extensions of our animal instincts. Everything we do is based on instinct, but because we have free will and a moderate amount of contemplative intelligence, we have created societies that go against instinct. Everything from religion to sitting in a cubicle is society's way of de-animalizing humanity. When you get right down to it, we are just like every other four legged creature on earth. We KILL, FCUK, and EAT. That is how we survive, except with layers and layers and layers of bullsh1t on top to disguise and sugar coat what we are REALLY doing. And THAT is all I was trying to say, but in a much nicer way.
Bart
PS - On the "Secular humanism" concept, why are we always labeling eachother? Must everyone fit perfectly into some man-made mold? Must we all be dyed in the wool Republicans? Or dyed in the wool Social Darwinists? Or dyed in the wool Satanists? Or dyed in the wool Liberals? No two people see life exactly the same way, so lets leave the labeling to Coke and Pepsi.
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Question everything you know!
That is the one thing that "faithful" people of any denomination typically do not do my friend, but I most certainly agree that they should.
I was raised Catholic, went to 6 years of Catholic school in fact, but it is because I have always asked "who are you to tell me what is true and what is not", that lead me to think the way I do now. Some people just choose to eat the mush on the end of the spoon, but some people spit it out after a while and ask to try something different.
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YA BUNCH OF HAIRLESS MONKEYS !
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The quotation is:It's actually a misquote misattributed to Winston Churchill.If you're not a liberal when you're 25, you have no heart. If you're not a conservative by the time you're 35, you have no brain.
it's also a load of bullsheet. It presumes that people are solely the product of their experience, that they are unable to reason there way to an understanding of a situation outside of their own. Sure, lots of people really are the self-centered, but that's hardly an ideal.
And Al Gore flying in private jets and riding in limos when calling for people to conserve energy.Just like you see Osama Bin Laderhosen calling for Muslims to blow themselves up you do not see him doing it
Or George Bush declaring war but never firing a single shot with his own hands.
Yeah, MANY people here think that.Now many here think George W is the first person to start a war or that the Middle East was all peaceful and happy before we attacked Iraq.
One thing the democrats have failed at and failed miserably is in their role as the loyal opposition. When they were a minority they just went along when they could have least done the "bully pulpit" thing and now that they have a majority in congress they best they can do is the occasional token resistance.Now old GW he has made more mistakes than a cow has nipples over the War in Iraq but only one Senator voted against giving him the power to do so. And quite frankly I do not beleive the Democrats who say yeah we voted for it but we did not expect him to do it. They are either lieing or they thought he would not do it and they could use that as proof that they were strong on National Defense and the Republicans are weak.
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Ahem, indeed we are Master Dub!
YA BUNCH OF HAIRLESS MONKEYS !
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Sort of a tiresome read, but a view with some merit. The place I stumble on the theory is...animals fear and fight against death, every bit as much as we do...at least when it's upon them. They manage to face oblivion and function without the gene. Neolithic man could ponder death, we presume animals cannot, but you're not allowing much time between aquiring the fear, and evolving the gene to overcome it in their model. Left me with a bit of an Art Bell feel...but I occasionally think of it still. Oh yeah...I was wondering how long it was gonna take for someone to whip their Jesus out. I am enjoying this thread...it's following all the great thread pathways...like Anita saidMy eternal place
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I was raised by wolves...you can only imagine my political views
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..........I cant wait for real proof of ET life !!
Boy Oh Boy , will that ever screw with the arrogant dogma of most 'organized' religions.
I think one phrase sums it up... and it covers the scourge of the modern day blame game , hypocrisy and deceit.
Simply said so long ago...
DO UNTO OTHERS........
jo
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Forget the God Gene, go with, "The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind."
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I voted for Nader last time around... some may laugh and say I threw away my vote. That's fine, but I think voting for either of the two "elite idiots" in '04 was pretty much throwing your vote away anyway! Things would be just as screwed up had Kerry won the election... maybe in different ways but still screwed up. I wonder how many times he would have brought troops home and sent them back again, then brought them home, then sent them back again...lol-if one did not believe one side over the other then they wouldn't know who to vote for anyway and probably wouldn't. I follow the lesser of two (or sometimes three) evils philosophy myself
But I voted for Nader, because of the 3 reasons to run for President (my view anyway), I think he represents the greater cause first:
Clinton = Power then duty
Bush = Greed, Power, Duty (as in revenge in his case - he was eyeing Iraq and "WMD" before he was even elected)
Kerry = I don't even think HE settled on why he wanted to run!
Nader = Duty - The guy knows he is not going to win, but he keeps running for Pres. to show people they don't have to be limited to the lesser of two evils. So my vote was for the hope of a greater future; a multi-party government. Face it, we were in trouble no matter what, during that election and the last couple years! No matter who would have ended up in office, we would be hurting right now.
But I probably would have voted for Dean had he not been shot down for being so energized and passionate.
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The church would come up with something! They have survived this long on books and stories. Mormons would just alter their teachings to include whatever aliens were discovered as a new chapter to their story. They would probably say, "Joseph Smith was hand in hand with God when he created his own new world in the stars. He wanted his alien people to be able to reach out to humans to show them how good heaven is. That is why they are coming here now. We are to be servants of these great beings to show dedication to our father." Not laughing? Good, cuz I'm not joking; I'm probably right!
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[QUOTE=ZEUS] He wanted his alien people to be able to reach out to humans to show them how good heaven is. That is why they are coming here now. We are to be servants of these great beings to show dedication to our father." Said Cortez to the Inca.....(like the toothpick in the banana....monkeys fall for this one every time)
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