Boredom

[Scott Harness]

This fall and winter were weird! There was a strange energy covering the planet(at least my part of it). I do massage and energy work, all my clients and just people I talked to were depressed,myself included. I think everybody is realizing what's around the corner. ps or we could be picking up vibes from a dying planet.

[Ascinder]

I kind of know what you mean Scott. I just rewatched A River Runs Through It and Legends of the Fall (both Montana movies-where I'm originally from) and the stark, pristine beauty and simplicty they showed (both set around the early 1900's) and the no nonsense, straightforward way of life struck chords in me. It feels like civilization is the one dying to me. I took a trip out Mcdermott, NV earlier in the week, and it's 100% wasteland the whole way there. I got homesick pretty bad and got the feeling you describe too, like stuff just isn't right in the world. It was very surreal and disturbing at the same time.

[LittleBeast]

It feels like civilization is the one dying to me. I took a trip out Mcdermott, NV earlier in the week, and it's 100% wasteland the whole way there. I got homesick pretty bad and got the feeling you describe too, like stuff just isn't right in the world. It was very surreal and disturbing at the same time.

I totally know what you mean in talking about being "homesick" and I think we all can relate. We all have that place in our lives that we really call "home". That one safe heaven where we feel totally at ease and totally at peace. After each track meet I go back to my parents house which is pretty far out in the country in small town Texas, and I can see innumerial stars at night and hear the creek flowing in the backyard and sit in the swing on the back porch or on the tree swing on the oak in the front and just soak in nature and be at peace. To me we all need these times in our lives where we get away from it all and just meditate on life and what is really important to us and to those that we love and hold dear. Some people run away from this home trying to reinvent themselves along the way, some people spend their whole lives trying to remember where their peace comes from, and others seem to be able to find peace and get away from it all no matter where they are. I for one find this peace when I am away from home in prayer and meditation on God's Word. Everyone finds their peace and joy in different ways and I hope and pray that everyone here remembers who they are and where true joy to them really rests. I also hope and pray that WE ALL can find a peace and a joy that does not solely rest on temporary fleeting pleasures in this life but we all find something more meaningful than simply ourselves, but something that lasts longer than simply our 80-100 years here on earth. I believe that this longing to fill this hole inside of us, this desire to live for something larger than just ourselves, and this desire to find real deep meaningful joy is not simply an accident or a random common occurance in all of our lives, but I believe that these common desirings and longings inside of us is the eternity set on the hearts of man that Ecc 3:11 talks about:

Ecclesiastes 3:11 He has made everything beautiful in its time. He has also set eternity in the hearts of men; yet they cannot fathom what God has done from beginning to end.

This is my point of view and I know some of you guys will not agree with me and some of you may, but I have found truth in all of what you guys have said and appreciate the opportunity to be apart of this unique community of VXers.
in Christ,
Ryan

[JHarris1385]

Go get a woman to keep you busy.....

[Scott Harness]

80-100 years on earth!! I'll be"home" way before that. ps How do you quote just a portion of a post?

[Scott Harness]

[/QUOTE]ps How do you quote just a portion of a post?[/QUOTE]Never mind figured it out.I think

[nfpgasmask]

Man, and I thought I was the only one bent on the impending apocalypse!

I think I shall quote a little something I wrote in my LJ a few weeks back:

"Most of my childhood free time was spent outside, playing in the woods or knee deep in a pond somewhere. And even in youth, I realized there was something happening to the world that was not right. I probably was not acutely aware of it until I was 11 or 12, but by then I had a pretty firm opinion about mankind, and how we were destroying this planet in massive, irreversible leaps and bounds. It was this point of view that most likely sculpted my personality to some degree.
Over the years, my generally nihilistic attitude and negative outlook on life was always met with a scowl. Whenever I voiced my opinion, or told people how I felt, I was usually blasted for my pessimism and dismissed as some sort of weirdo or outcast. As I was unable to exchange my negative thoughts for a positive outlook on life, I suppose I did become (and still am to some degree) a bit of a weirdo, and certainly an outcast. And for a long time, the knowledge of what we were doing to the Earth kept me fairly melancholy and generally depressed. It is difficult to find a clear path through life, when you know that you as a human are part of the problem, and that apart from a few small things, there is absolutely nothing anyone can do to stop mankind’s lust for power and money, and his lack of will to do what is right before what is convenient. But what kept me going for so long, was the fact that I must have been wrong about what I was thinking, since everyone around me thought I was crazy. I guess, deep down, I still had some shred of hope left. But as I got older, and things only got worse, that shred of hope slowly turned into nothing, and my depression slowly changed into cynicism. In some ways, I just stopped caring and accepted the fact that I am human, and I do human things, and the train will eventually run into a solid, steel reinforced, concrete wall no matter what.
But today, it is a different story. I’m 32 years old now, and it seems like a lot of folks are starting to see things my way, finally. Not only that, but it seems like there are new stories around every corner about how Mother Nature is fighting a loosing battle against mankind’s exponential growth, voracious appetite, and lack of forethought. Perhaps it is because the media caught on? It is not uncommon now to flip on the television and find shows about the end of the world, climate change, global pandemics, apocalyptic wars, and various other doomsday scenarios. I am reading newspaper articles about how the oceans are overfished, and how you really shouldn’t eat more than five pieces of sushi because of the mercury levels. I watch news clips about oil spills, and about the sudden disappearance of honey bees. I read blogs about how some state parks are in danger of having roads cut through them to accommodate urban sprawl. I scan through forum entries about how there is a strange fungus spreading, killing off populations of amphibians around the world. Just last week I read an online news article about whole pods of whales beaching themselves on the east coast, with researchers suspecting it was caused by some military testing of high output sonar from submarines. And another article about how a US lumber company just purchased nearly 100,000 acres of Brazilian rainforest to harvest. I could go on and on.
So you see all the things I have been thinking about since childhood are now coming to light. The dam of pessimism has broken, and the thick, murky waters of doom are flooding the mainstream. And yet, nothing has changed. The politics are still corrupt. The greenback is still the one, true god. And we, as a species continue down a path of destruction, that will inevitably destroy the very systems we depend on to breathe, eat, and thrive on this planet.
I have given a lot of thought to why. What makes us different? Why can we not see past our own mistakes, or at least not chronically repeat the errors of our forefathers? I don’t know what the answer is. But I do know that longevity must play a part. Humans do not live long. Therefore, we only strive to ensure our immediate future stays intact. And by immediate I mean, tomorrow and the next week, possibly next month, but typically not 20 years from now. Most people lack the capacity, and/or the capability to competently plan for their own futures, let alone the futures of their children, and their children’s children. And maybe this is what separates us so distinctly from other living creatures on the planet. We understand our mortality. We know we are going to die. And because of this, our needs for NOW become more demanding. We don’t care or even think about the consequences our automobiles may have on the planet. We just know that right now, we need it to get to work, so that we have money on Friday. And in a nut shell, that is how the whole world works. It’s the simple fact that what we need now will always take precedence over what we need tomorrow. And because of this, Mother Nature’s savings account is nearly tapped out, and soon we are going to be faced with worldwide famine, collapsing economies, more wars, and outright, global strife.
For now, I will just sit back, and enjoy my remaining years. Perhaps, in my lifetime I will see some incredible things transpire. It will be interesting to see how accurate our visions of the future have been. It will be intriguing to watch the human race scramble to turn back time, to reverse the effects of our squandering, and to fail trying. It is apparent to me that we have already gone well past the point of no return. The things we have destroyed in the last 100 years took millenniums to create, and now that they are gone, there is no turning back. But at least now, pessimism is in, and society agrees, we have no future. And fortunately for me, I have some like minded company to share the “end of the world” with. "

As you can see, I was feeling particularly crappy about the state of things that day. But like I said in the last paragraph, at least I have some good, quality people to share thoughts with! I can't wait to hang out with everyone in Moab again!

Ascinder, hiking is something I am willing to do, rain or shine, cold or hot. As long as you can put up with how slow and outta shape I am, I'm game. As soon as I am done with this house BS (only a couple more weeks) I will be free to engage in as much walking around in the woods (or desert) as anyone would like. I wouldn't mind exploring some more ghost towns as well. Don't hesitate to call. A regular movie night at my new crib is on the horizon as well...

Bart

PS-I think the three of us are all like old married couples. So when are you and Megan gonna tie the knot anyway?

[Chopper]

Bart, my Dark minded friend...change is only bad, when you're the one being changed. Lots bigger and badder stuff than humans have rolled at this biosphere, none have managed to stop it. Trilobites had to give way to the crab types. Sucked to be a Trilobite, not so much for the crabs. The Dino's had to die to allow the mammalians to rise....that one took an asteroid, and a bunch o' volcanoes to pull off. 95% of everything had to die. This is nothin'. The caps have melted before.....puts a bunch of water into the air....comes down as snow...heavier than usual, which reflects sunlight, which cools s@#% down.....stuff freezes.....whoops....ice age! Almost everything dies, and we're off again. Be nice to what you love, try not to make a mess, don't eat turtle eggs....an'.....realize, you ( all humans) don't matter any more than a hunk of rock from space to this planet. You'll never kill it. Just yourselves. Wait'll you see the cool stuff on the next turning....bet turtles are still here.

[nfpgasmask]

Bart, my Dark minded friend...change is only bad, when you're the one being changed. Lots bigger and badder stuff than humans have rolled at this biosphere, none have managed to stop it. Trilobites had to give way to the crab types. Sucked to be a Trilobite, not so much for the crabs. The Dino's had to die to allow the mammalians to rise....that one took an asteroid, and a bunch o' volcanoes to pull off. 95% of everything had to die. This is nothin'. The caps have melted before.....puts a bunch of water into the air....comes down as snow...heavier than usual, which reflects sunlight, which cools s@#% down.....stuff freezes.....whoops....ice age! Almost everything dies, and we're off again. Be nice to what you love, try not to make a mess, don't eat turtle eggs....an'.....realize, you ( all humans) don't matter any more than a hunk of rock from space to this planet. You'll never kill it. Just yourselves. Wait'll you see the cool stuff on the next turning....bet turtles are still here.

Oh, I do agree. "Save the planet" should read "Save the human race". The Earth isn't going anywhere...

Bart

[Ascinder]

Ascinder, hiking is something I am willing to do, rain or shine, cold or hot. As long as you can put up with how slow and outta shape I am, I'm game.

I am fairly impervious to weather myself, and actually I like to be immersed in the harsher elements('cept heat). I just know most of the time people shy away from anything other than "ideal" outdoors conditions. Truth be told I am still going to go no matter what it looks like outside, so the invitation stands. Megan probably won't go, she's climatically challenged, but actually, on hiking difficulty scale, you aren't going to find much easier. To call it a walk in the park would be incorrect only in the sense that it is in the woods, not a park. The incline is so slight, it is unnoticeable in most places. I haven't ever gone all the way to the end, but we can try based conditions.

Here's a rundown from trails.com:

Lower Galena Creek Trail Preview: Those who subscribe to the theory that golf is a good walk spoiled might enjoy this hike along Galena Creek. The trail begins in a natural setting of sagebrush scrub and Jeffrey pine forest with thick riparian foliage lining the creek, but all too soon it passes through the manicured grounds and upscale homes of the Montreux Golf and Country Club. Beyond Montreux, the surroundings return to a more natural state before the path disappears in a tangle of thick brush that chokes the banks of the tumbling creek. The trail will ultimately connect two county parks, Callahan and Galena Creek, but it currently dead-ends about a quarter mile below Galena Creek Park. The relatively low elevation makes the trip up Galena Creek a good choice for a spring or fall outing, but the mostly forested route provides enough shade that even a midsummer hike shouldn’t be oppressively hot. A picnic lunch at Callahan Park may provide a fine conclusion to the adventure.

Lemme know when you guys want to meet up if you want to go. I was thinking Saturday morning or afternoon, but I am flexible.

[CrnCnn]

Bart, I am more than likely free to help move stuff.

If you guys are down for hiking figure out a time and I should probly be there, I need to get outside.

[nfpgasmask]

Ascinder,

I would love to go, but unfortunately this coming weekend is the big pack up. Basically, the next 3 weekends are shot for me. This weekend we pack, the following weekend we prep the new house for the flooring guys, and then the last weekend of March we move. So basically, I'm not making any other plans until all that stuff is in the clear! Soon my friends, soon.

Clint, thanks, I will take you up on the offer and buy you a 12 pack!

Scott, you got it, just hit the quote button and make sure you have the quote codes surrounding the areas you want to show up as a quote.


Bart