yea paypal will be the preferred method of payment... after talking to bob i think the way we figured out to do it best is i will buy 20-25 units from him.. and then i will sell them out of my house from there, i beleive he still wants to change the pattern a bit because there is about 1/4" overhang on the front, so im going to be sending him some photos in the morning of the overhang.. i was thinking it would be nice if a local VXer could swing by his place and have him test fit one on their vx.. shouldnt take long.. if he doesnt offer a discount for someone who does that, i will cut the final price in half for anyone who does it. he is located in Beaverton, OR send me a pm and we can work out the details