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    i have rockford fosgate 8" subs in a custom made enclosure perfectly to manufacturers specs and they hit hard people have a hard time believing they are only 8"s.. of course they dont shake the neighborhood.. but you definately feel it in your chest and im only running 120 watts RMS to each...

    ive also run infinity subs with nice results, not in my VX though..


    other brands i would coonsider for subs... JL (although they are overpriced imho) MTX, and JBL.. im sure there is stuff better than that but those are the brands ive had experience with and have been pleased with

    brands i havent had good subwoofer luck with/havent heard good things... visionik.. sony.. legacy.. audiobahn


    "Engineers believe if it ain't broke, it doesn't have enough features yet"

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    i have visonik now 2 10's there pretty good but i want more power and bump so they will be hitting the market soon for sale.

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    Hard to make a recommendation without a budget.

    It sounds like you want spl over sq.

    John C.

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    what is spl over sq?

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    sound pressure level vs sound quality... i built my system for sound quality.. which is why i went with smaller subs that have tighter bass... the bigger your subs are, usually the sloppier the bass will be (although high quality large subs still produce very tight bass) cars you see with walls of speakers (like rickster's) are built for sound pressure level... biju is building his system for sound quality.. speakers aimed, boxes tuned, equalizers, etc.. generally sound quality systems dont get as loud... but they are crystal clear (although i think biju's will blow out eardrums with crystal clear sound..)

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    Agreed. Sound quality is PLUS anyday. My system was built and tuned this way YEARS ago, but over the years, blown speakers, rattles, and other non stereo loving issues have surfaced. It still sounds great, minus the passenger side door speakers working at all (snips them wires after they blew), heh. I simply dont drive it enough now to care to update the system. Perhaps one day though.

    Basically, it's pushing a single 12" JLAudio sub through Shawn's tailgate sub enclosure.

    Rockford Fosgate tweets, mids, and woofers in front doors and mid compartment.

    Alpine cd/MP3/XM headunit (this thing is a fossil to todays standards, but the built-in and very extensive crossover unit is genius)

    JLAudio amps (dont recall the sizes)

    And of course, Dynamatting and 100% StreetWires.

    In all, the system is so dated that I cant even remember ANY of the actual specs of any of it. I dont think it matters though, cause what still works, is well broken in and sounds great, heh.

    QUALITY OVER QUANTITY!!!!!!!!!
    Gary Noonan
    '01 S/C VX / '18 Forester XT

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    I used to install car electronics. I've designed and installed plenty of highend systems.

    ...that said, here's some advice.


    The VX already has great speaker locations and adding a sub in the back should make it sound richer with more of a foundation. I like to build speaker enclosures based on the speakers individual specs. That way, you get the optimum sound quantity and quality from a sub.

    As far as watts go, most speakers that even boast high wattage are doing so only to make a sale. What matters is ohms voice coil diameter. Lower the ohms and the amp can drive the speaker harder but everything runs much hotter, including teh speaker voice coil itself! That heat buildup is what can "blow" a speaker. A larger voice coil can help turn more of the signal into energy rather than waste it on heat. Remember a speaker is really a linear electric motor.

    A good 600 watt RMS amp should knock your socks off. Make sure you pay attention to the RMS rating. It's the true rating of watts. Peak watts doesn't matter much. RMS (root mean squared) is where it's at!

    Stay away from Sony products. I used to love them in the 70's now it's crap.

    ...and there's my advice.
    Sold the VX 11-21-07. It was fun while I had it!
    Thanks for all the help.

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