Thanks Techy. I will be leaving Oly at 2:30 so should hit Portland traffic just when it is starting to pick up, yippie, hey, I drive for a living so no biggie, just hope it's slow enough so I can read a book. Am surprised some folks from the Port/Van area haven't spoken up. I emailed most everyone down that way from my Pacific Northwest Email list last weekend but haven't gotten ONE RESPONSE and I use right guard, whats the deal P.N.W. VX'ers? I know BullDog and Eric are busy, but there are a whole bunch more down there like: BigMoTruckGuy, Consaka, Little Laurie, wow, just looked, there are a bunch in Portland. Anyway Techy, just made res at the Shilo on Sitka. name is John Ford in case anyone wants to check up on me there and take me out and wine and dine me. I'll bring some blue jeans in case I should get knee crawling,... I hope. Ain't it great to have a kitchen pass. Just sent you a PM with my cell #