timing belt jumped

[IndianaVX]

WOOOHOOOOO!!!!!

Well, ill give you all one guess, as to what is in my driveway.........times up.....

I GOT HER BACK!!!!
yes, its true, i got my vx back on thrursday, late afternoon, so i drive it around so carefully for a couple of hours. but i figure im gonna have to take it down the highway, and give it some gas, so off i go. as im giving it a steady acceleration, im thinking, this doesnt sound right, and even more, THIS DOESNT FEEL RIGHT. i mean, i do remember the airbox making some noise when accelerating, and it has been 3 months, but i can tell, and something is WRONG. i HAVE NO acceleration, and i sound like some kinda poser ricer. so i pull in over at my parents house so i can check things out. when i raised my hood to investigate, this is what it sounded like.........


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AWWWWWW CRAP!!!

it was already sprinkiling, the sky turned dark, my fists pointing at the ground, face towards the sky, screaming.....NOOOOOOOOoooooooo.......... (fade to black) lol

so im thinking im doomed, i am so depressed, i putter home, the shop is closed so i just limp on into the driveway. it had quit raining, so i go ahead and wax, and coat everything so atleast the vx is clean again, and wait till morning to call the shop.
when i call i tell them that im comming in for them to listen to, and FIX, what is wrong. i tell them something was left off, exhaust i thought, maybe something in the intake manifold.....they say bring it in.

when i get there, they look all upset and so i raise my hood, and i say listen to this.....so they check it out, and discover that the nut on the bottom of the egr had come off, (i think, never was put back on....) and so i leave it there for a couple of hours to cool and be fixed.

when i got it back....MAN WHAT A DIFFERENCE!!! its back, my vx is BACK!!!!
the acceleration, the smoothness, all of it. it stunned me how awful the truck sounded, and how terrible my acceleration was. i mean, the engine made alot of noise as it reved higher, but it just wasnt moving the truck to match, all because of the egr basicly being disconnected.
so i am back in the truck, and loving it.

??????????????????????????????????????????????????/?//?????????????????????i do have one question, or issue. i cant remember hearing this before. but when i accelerate evenly, but givin it alot of gas to get moving, i hear the airbox noise, or suck, all thru the rpms till about 3800-4000 rpm then it gets quiet, and starts the airbox noise again at around 4500, or when it shifts. like i said, i dont remember hearing that lack of sucking noise anytime in the "power band" before. ANY IDEAS????

summing up the warranty company, i give em about a 5.5 on a 10 scale.
they did pay 1100, of a 1700 dollar bill. so i wound up paying 618.23 for my end which included my 100.00 deductable. where most of MY bill was is
mechanic would charge 7 hrs on something, the warranty would only cover 5.5 hrs, leaving me the balance. this happened on about 5 line items.

i did get new intake gaskets, new plugs (double platnum...have to look that up later...) valves adjusted. so thats good stuff too, just not sure how the double platnum plugs work with the vx.

so today, im gonna drive, cruise, just get back in touch with my truck.

[IndianaVX]

maverick,
sorry to hear about a ISUZU DEALER doing that to you, and choosing your fights wisely, yeah, probably too much time passed to really do anything about it, but i would put at least a phone call in.
as far as the engine being interferance or not, i am about 98.634 % that it is a NON INTERFERANCE engine. if i were you, i would go ahead and replace it, and the belt tensioner, and probably the water pump too. merlin got the tensioner, and pump for me and it cost like 220 bucks. which reminds me,
i asked my mechanic for my old pump back, but he didnt have it.......makes me wonder, alot, but ill let it pass....

there are folks on here that have changed the belt themselves, but i think it depends alot on how mechanicly inclined you are. i think the biggest tools you would need on this project it time, and paitence.
good luck with it, i have step by step instructions if you want or need them....actually have about 10-12 pages of timming, etc...and 2 how to's from start to finish.
so keep us posted....

david

[Y33TREKker]

Glad to hear you're back on the road Indiana. I sometimes wonder what my decision would be if my VX developed a similar serious problem, fix or sell, but overall I believe that a brief period of frustration wouldn't be enough to make me let go of such a unique vehicle.

[Ldub]

FINALLY !!!...I'm happy for you David, & pretty sure you'll find it was worth the wait.

I'm spending the day under "her highness"...I got up the ambition to drop the tranny pan & put in a new filter & fluid etc. Sure is a hot one out there.

[IndianaVX]

ARRRRGGGHHHHHH!!!!!
THE SAGA CONTINUES........
on the way to the shop to take care of these codes ive been throwing, i accelerated just to see what the vx would do today, and it sounded like it went completely out of time again.......i barely hit 20 mph, and when i came up on a hill, the engine was making a dreaded knocking sound....... but once i got to the shops parking lot, at idle, i couldnt hear any knock, and it reved alright..........who knows????

the most irritating thing about all this is my peace of mind is shattered. i will never be able to hop in the vx again and feel secure. with the comprimised head, the chepo plugs they put in there, and who knows what else, im just afraid that now everytime i drive it, any little ping or tick, im gonna be freaking out about it.

i apologize for the open forum venting, and ranting, but my kids dont really get it, and my wife just knows im disgusted,

i know you all understand what we are dealing with in keeping these trucks on the road and in good shape.
i appreciate this great forum, and the help and understanding it provides.
you know ill keep you posted.....as for noww, the vx is in the shop again, and it may be a while before i get it back..

take care of yourselves, and your vx's!!!!

david

[IndianaVX]

here is the latest,

my o2 sensor #1 left bank is bad, and my catalitic converter is toast. the shop told me that with the truck running the way it was, it was dumping too much fuel, and burned the thing up
but if it was dumping too much fuel, then why was the code reading "lean fuel on acceleration"????
something doesnt sound right, and me owning a vehicross is starting to not sound right either.......
i dont think warranty company is gonna cover any of these two items, merlin quoted me 798.15 for the converter, and 103.58 for the 02 sensor.
i am in way over my head to make the case that the cylinder head repair was faulty, and caused this latest trouble.
i just dont know......

oh, and the shop also told me that there may be other things pop up after i get THIS repair done....is there a chance that the other cat. converter could go bad, or is it seperate enough that it wouldnt be affected by the left side.......

rattum frattum frickum frackum...........

[IndianaVX]

well, the vx is dead.......for now..........im talking to a lawyer tommorow, or thursday.
and although this thread has become a bore, a long depressing bore, i think it will come into play nicely in a court situation to give a time frame of events, and how things transpired.
when i talked to the shop today, they were basicly blaming ME for the catilitc converter failure.....go figure
they said that when i drove it when the belt broke (???) and over the course of the weekend,(150 miles) that when i was driving, there was too much fuel being dumped into the cat. covert. and thats what burned it, and the 02 sensor up......

the points i intend to raise are as follows, which are all documented in this thread, and hopefully the warrany companys paper work as well.........

back a couple of months ago, maybe page two, i was told that the new belt was put on the vx, and it ran great, but due to the water pump not being in yet, they couldnt finish the job......
well, if the cam was in the condition that it was in, then this couldnt have happened, when the water pump DID come in, they put the belt on, and couldnt get it running, which later they discovered that the cam was spun 180 degrees, so either they lied about it running previously, or they damaged the cam over the course of the 2 or 3 weeks of trying to set the time.

point two,
they obviously didnt take the truck on a test drive of any worth or run diagnostics computer when they completed the head install, because ANY mechanic that is worth anything would have noticed the lack of power, and the AWFUL growel that was made by not haveing the egr tube hooked up to the bottom of the egr valve..........

point three,
again, there was no test drive after the egr was connected because if there was, they would have thrown the codes i was experianceing over the weekend, in which case, i would think they would have kept the vx in the shop, and figured out why it was throwing the codes. in MY opinion, they set me up for failure by letting me take the vx as completed. me with the understanding that my vx was in shape to drive, i was actually destroying my catalitic converter, or CONVERTERSSSS, plural . (1500.00)

I dont like to play the blame game, but who is at fault here?? me, for doing what you are supposed to do when you get a vehicle back after 3 months, which is to drive it? OR, the shop that gave me a faulty completed repaired vehicle to drive only to damage it further???

if you have an opinion on this, if anyone is even reading this thread anymore...lol...please post your opinion, good or bad, i would like to hear it. ive never taken anyone to court,or small claims court before. anyone had any experiance in a situation like this???

well, wish me luck, cause i need it right now.
thanks for all the support you guys have given me over this whole ordeal.
thanks, gobs and gobs.......lol

david