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    I'm going to order mine soon. Let me know how it works out.

    Bart

    Quote Originally Posted by Jolly Roger VX'er
    Well...the good news is that I got my R1 Concepts drilled/slotted rotors delivered today...the bad news is they sent me 4 front rotors instead of 2 front & 2 rear. I emailed them tonight so we'll see how good their customer service is.

    they look to be well made...I had no issues with the drilled holes or slots...all seem to be machined nice & cleanly. They were packaged well too.

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    I paid $165 for a set of front and back discs from these guys, and a set of OEM pads for $30 all round.
    I went in and had the pads changed less than 6 months ago and asked the guys to check the discs as I had a feeling they weren't right. No they're fine. I was told.
    So here I am 6 months later and getting a grinding noise when I brake, I was replacing the front shocks with Ranchos and told them to check out the brakes and discs. "You've got about a thousand mile left on the front shoks and the discs are OK.
    But on the way back from the shop the grinding got that little bit more noticable, I ordered pads that night. when I took them to a different shop to get them fixed while I was at work,(pouring rain no garage,middle of winter, would you?)
    They rang back and said they wouldn't put the pads on as I desperatley needed discs. So the Golden Rule is if you feel it ain't right it more than likely isn't.
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    LOL, interesting thread. I'm at 133K miles on the original rotors and will have them turned (if needed) as I do need pads for the front, which will be the Axxis pads since stopping is kinda important to me and they've proven themselves in AutoX and RallyX circles here.
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    I am in the market soon, any updates on the R1 product?

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    Question

    i'm curious, as well. although more interested on the pads.

    i still haven't been able to find an answer to -

    what compound are the OEM pads made up of? (semi metallic, ceramic etc?)

    the auto parts stores keep telling me OEM's are ceramic. don't want to try the wrong material on stock rotors.

    -jose
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jolly Roger VX'er
    Well...the good news is that I got my R1 Concepts drilled/slotted rotors delivered today...the bad news is they sent me 4 front rotors instead of 2 front & 2 rear. I emailed them tonight so we'll see how good their customer service is.

    they look to be well made...I had no issues with the drilled holes or slots...all seem to be machined nice & cleanly. They were packaged well too.
    An update: After emailing them, they responded with an automatic email saying to expect 3 day wait (business day) before a response to my email; which turned out to be about right...they responded with a request to resolve over the phone (no 1-800 # though)....so after talking to them a couple of minutes (they were nice about it and apologetic), they emailed me a return shipping UPS label to send back 2 of the front rotors and promised to ship out the correct rear rotors after receiving them. I'll let you know how it turns out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe_Black
    LOL, interesting thread. I'm at 133K miles on the original rotors and will have them turned (if needed) as I do need pads for the front, which will be the Axxis pads since stopping is kinda important to me and they've proven themselves in AutoX and RallyX circles here.
    I'm pretty sure in my case its because I live in the proverbial "rust-belt" area of the nation. In my mind its not an ISUZU issue...its a disc brake setup doesn't like roadsalt/dust/grime/calcium chloride mix. I've had issues with other vehicles I've owned pertaining to the disc brakes too...but in those cases the vehicle would pull to one side or the other indicating a problem that could be quickly addressed. With my VX, because it is both inner pads sticking, it doesn't pull to either side and gives virtually no warning because the wear indicators are on the opposite (outboard) pads.

    Ironically, drum brakes seem to stand up to these conditions very well...usually without issue.
    My Monte Carlo has disc fronts and drum rears and the rears never give me any problems. Ditto for the Ford Bronco I used to own.

    My VX front rotors show excellent wear on the outer pads and a higher amount of wear on the inner pads..but still overall they are in good condition.
    My VX rear rotors show excellent wear on the outer pads and were used up on the inner pads...down to the rivets..which is what I started to hear screeching.

    If there is a bright side...alot of my previous vehicles had caliper piston malfunctions too...where the piston would get stuck either intitially before engaging the pad resulting in unbalanced braking or during braking where it would'nt release resulting in pulling to one side. My VX has not exhibited any of these issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jolly Roger VX'er
    An update: After emailing them, they responded with an automatic email saying to expect 3 day wait (business day) before a response to my email; which turned out to be about right...they responded with a request to resolve over the phone (no 1-800 # though)....so after talking to them a couple of minutes (they were nice about it and apologetic), they emailed me a return shipping UPS label to send back 2 of the front rotors and promised to ship out the correct rear rotors after receiving them. I'll let you know how it turns out.
    Well, just to let you guys know, they came through with sending me the correct rear rotors in exchange for the 2 front rotors I didn't need (they sent me 4 fronts instead of 2 frnt + 2 rears). Now all I need is for winter to go away!

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    Well, I just ordered a full set of brake pads and rotors from R1.

    Hopefully they will ship soon! I can't wait to get these on so I can start driving like a maniac again! (I have been taking it easy cause I know my pads are worn down pretty bad right now).

    Bart

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    not too sure I'd buy my R1's over again if given the chance...(but maybe because I have limited to NO experience with how drilled/slotted rotors *should* perform...??)

    the face (surface) on my rotors are BROWN? - and the slots get all filled up with pad gunk constantly. (doesn't this defeat the purpose of the slots? ha.)

    Is this supposed to be? I always see other rides with drilled/slotted rotors and their surfaces are gleaming silver/clean - w/ no build up in the holes or slots...

    I dunno. I'm picky tho. maybe this phenomena will subside over time, and is only because they're still new.

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    Well, what about the braking performance? I mean, I really hope this wasn't a bad choice. I need brakes pretty bad now, but if these are going to be bad for my VX....

    So you are saying they are like rusted? Or just dirty? I wonder if I should try to get them exchanged for regular rotors (non-drilled and slotted)??? Do you think that would be better?

    Bart

    Quote Originally Posted by biju
    not too sure I'd buy my R1's over again if given the chance...(but maybe because I have limited to NO experience with how drilled/slotted rotors *should* perform...??)

    the face (surface) on my rotors are BROWN? - and the slots get all filled up with pad gunk constantly. (doesn't this defeat the purpose of the slots? ha.)

    Is this supposed to be? I always see other rides with drilled/slotted rotors and their surfaces are gleaming silver/clean - w/ no build up in the holes or slots...

    I dunno. I'm picky tho. maybe this phenomena will subside over time, and is only because they're still new.

    -biju.

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    no rust, just 'burnt' color on the break pad (rotor) contact surface... it's really strange. I'll see if I can snap a pic tonight after work...

    performace on the R1's are fine so far, but just concerned about what I'm seeing... My hope is this is just stuff happening due to a 'break in' period of new pads/rotors, etc.... and crossing my fingers that what I'm seeing isn't the begining of the end. ha.

    again - right *now* - they work great.

    -biju.

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    Yeah, my hope is for performance and longevity. You can't really see my rotors through the Chambers, so looks isn't really a concern. I just want good, long lasting stopping power.

    I don't want to have to change my brakes again before Moab!

    Hopefully, R1 will chime in on this thread again and let us know what's going on in your case.

    Bart

    Quote Originally Posted by biju
    no rust, just 'burnt' color on the break pad (rotor) contact surface... it's really strange. I'll see if I can snap a pic tonight after work...

    performace on the R1's are fine so far, but just concerned about what I'm seeing... My hope is this is just stuff happening due to a 'break in' period of new pads/rotors, etc.... and crossing my fingers that what I'm seeing isn't the begining of the end. ha.

    again - right *now* - they work great.

    -biju.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nfpgasmask
    I don't want to have to change my brakes again before Moab!
    ...am i reading this right? you'll be present?

    -biju.

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    I am planning to make it, yes. Right now, I need to figure out what day the VX only run is, and if there is no VX only run, I would at least like to make it for 1 or 2 of the days when most of us (VXers) will be there. My wife is not thrilled about the trip so it might just be me.

    Basically, I will know more once the plans come together.

    Bart


    Quote Originally Posted by biju
    ...am i reading this right? you'll be present?

    -biju.

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