Ouch! Please suggest something less painful!

[ZEUS]

Maybe someone else has heard this before, knows something about it, and can set me straight... To my understanding, drilled rotors are not suited for those of us who go offroad. I have read about small rocks getting wedged in the holes of vented rotors and ruining things. It would seem if this were to happen it would happen more often in rally, but I don't read up on rally very much so I am not sure where I heard it. Anyone have any comments on this?

[r1concepts]

Maybe someone else has heard this before, knows something about it, and can set me straight... To my understanding, drilled rotors are not suited for those of us who go offroad. I have read about small rocks getting wedged in the holes of vented rotors and ruining things. It would seem if this were to happen it would happen more often in rally, but I don't read up on rally very much so I am not sure where I heard it. Anyone have any comments on this?

I've never heard of that. But then again, it seems possible for you off-roaders. So maybe, slotted would be better.

Has anyone ever experience this?

[PHO2GR4]

Hey Kyle,

I just saw a set of steel-braided brake lines on eBay for about $150 shipped. Are those the ones you're talking about? Have any of you VXers tried these before?!?

[kpaske]

These are the ones I use:

http://www.independent4x.com/item.jh...3&PRID=1221569

[biju]

OK, R1... I'm giving your rotors a try, and placed an order tonight for the front and rear set. I hope I've chosen wisely...

I have also previously ordered the OEM pads from Isuzu to go with the new rotors, so no worries there. (man, those were spendy... see barts prices above!)

Finally, I also picked up the braided breakline kit from Independent 4x.

Granted all this arrives in time, I'll have it all installed next Friday and report back (specifically) on the rotors. I hope my findings are similar to Tobert's.

-biju.

[Jolly Roger VX'er]

For Rotors I went with the Duralast from autozone $30.00 per rotor no exchange of course and a 24 month Warranty. My rear rotors were coming apart on the inside (I replaced), and the fronts looked fine.

Ditto for me too. My rear rotors finally came apart on the inside at 60k miles. I do live on a dirt road so I'm sure the dust didn't help. I tried cleaning the caliper sliders a few times over the years but the rotors still went kaput. My fronts still look fine. I went to AutoZone today to buy the cheapest rear rotors (ValueCraft #31084B) & pads (DuraLast D580) for the rear just get her up and running and to make it through winter...only costs me $22.99 per rotor plus like $21.99 for the pads. Everything was in stock.
Autozone does list cheaper pads (ValueCraft D580V @ $12.99) but these were not in stock where I was at. They also list more 'spensive pads if anyone wants premium pads.

I ordered "R1 Concepts Inc" drilled/slotted/zinc plated front & rear rotors today for a next spring mod project. They were $154.99 + shipping($48 to PA via UPS Ground) @ their website.

Also ordered pads from "Import Replacement parts":
http://www.importrp.com/home.php

(D 770 RU/5) PBR/Axxis Ultimate FRONT Brake Pad Set $44.99
(D 771 RU/6) PBR/Axxis Ultimate REAR Brake Pad Set $44.99
Subtotal: $89.98
my Shipping cost: $13.06

Total: $103.04

Also ordered a stainless steel brake line kit from "Independent 4X":
http://www.independent4x.com/item.jh...3&PRID=1221569

$149.99 plus shipping (my shipping to PA was $11)

Of course if the weather stays warm here in W. PA; Spring just might come a little early if you catch my snowless drift

[biju]

Jolly,

Did you get your R1 rotors yet?

I got mine today, and am on the fence. They look good, but the drilled holes look a little sloppy (but I could just be picky). Some are smooth holes, others are jagged. Can't tell unless you're up close holding them in your hands, but still... wondering if you're have the same texture?

wonder if this will have any sort of effect on them...?

Anyways, the Independent 4x brakeline kit came today also (It was a 'package' day for sure...) Really BEEFY lines!

They all get installed tomorrow, so I'll post back on performance.

-biju.

[nfpgasmask]

Beej, please do keep us posted. I have not ordered my rotors and pads yet...so please feedback.

Thanks - Bart

Jolly,

Did you get your R1 rotors yet?

I got mine today, and am on the fence. They look good, but the drilled holes look a little sloppy (but I could just be picky). Some are smooth holes, others are jagged. Can't tell unless you're up close holding them in your hands, but still... wondering if you're have the same texture?

wonder if this will have any sort of effect on them...?

Anyways, the Independent 4x brakeline kit came today also (It was a 'package' day for sure...) Really BEEFY lines!

They all get installed tomorrow, so I'll post back on performance.

-biju.

[VehiGAZ]

nfp, I think the dealership prices you were quoted were pretty good! I recently had my dealer replace the rear pads (almost gone) & rotors (warped). The STEALership is charging $250 APIECE for the rotors!! I didn't ask about the price ahead of time, so I got burned on the bill. Never again will I not ask!

[kpaske]

nfp, I think the dealership prices you were quoted were pretty good! I recently had my dealer replace the rear pads (almost gone) & rotors (warped). The STEALership is charging $250 APIECE for the rotors!! I didn't ask about the price ahead of time, so I got burned on the bill. Never again will I not ask!

There's almost always a higher markup on parts installed by the dealership. Sometimes the price you're quoted at the parts counter is much less than what they charge you in the shop in the same building (in addition to the labor!). But the prices Merlin @ St. Charles gives us are lower than any I've seen.

[nfpgasmask]

I would like more info on this if possible. I roll around in the rocky Nevada wasteland often enough...

Bart

I've never heard of that. But then again, it seems possible for you off-roaders. So maybe, slotted would be better.

Has anyone ever experience this?

[kpaske]

Nobody's really speaking up, but when I was researching my rotors I found a few threads where this was mentioned. I chose SP Performance's "diamond slotted" design because the holes' edges are tapered, which should be less prone to having little rocks get stuck.

FWIW I'm pretty sure this is the exact rotor that Tone was using for Rally racing - he was one of those who spoke very highly about them when I was asking around.

I don't have them installed yet, so I can't give you much of a first hand review.

[Jolly Roger VX'er]

Jolly,

Did you get your R1 rotors yet?

I got mine today, and am on the fence. They look good, but the drilled holes look a little sloppy (but I could just be picky). Some are smooth holes, others are jagged. Can't tell unless you're up close holding them in your hands, but still... wondering if you're have the same texture?

wonder if this will have any sort of effect on them...?

Anyways, the Independent 4x brakeline kit came today also (It was a 'package' day for sure...) Really BEEFY lines!

They all get installed tomorrow, so I'll post back on performance.

-biju.

No, I haven't received mine yet. I just got home from work and found my Independent 4X steel brakeline kit delivered to the doorstep; but, still waiting for rotors and PBR/AXXIS brake pads.

I was thinking that if my rotors arrive with any of the holes jagged as you described I'll either take'em to work (we have full machine shop there) and deburr the hole with a champhering tool or simply use my dremel at home.

As far as the issues with stones....I live on a dirt road with lots of stones of assorted sizes....all the way down to the granular stones you find in a handful of beach sand. If this IS an issue...I'll report back to you guys about it. Thats kind of why I didn't mind buying the Autozone rear rotors now because they'll be good to have (along with my original front rotors) if I encounter any problems with stones lodging in the holes of the R1Concepts.

[biju]

The holes aren't bad, and are quality - I guess I was expecting them to be satin smooth but seeing as they're machined I was probably being unreasonable and picky...

So far so good with the rotors. Initially they seem to provide a little more 'bite' upon braking - however, I'm not sure if it's the rotors or the new Independent 4X brake line kit? Either way, they seem to work/perform good - but only more time will really tell...

-biju.

[Jolly Roger VX'er]

Well...the good news is that I got my R1 Concepts drilled/slotted rotors delivered today...the bad news is they sent me 4 front rotors instead of 2 front & 2 rear. I emailed them tonight so we'll see how good their customer service is.

they look to be well made...I had no issues with the drilled holes or slots...all seem to be machined nice & cleanly. They were packaged well too.