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    Did you get those R1Concepts rotors??? If so, did you use their pads also?

    Thanks,
    Bart

    Quote Originally Posted by orion
    Go aftermarket!! I got all four rotors off ebay for under $200. even my local parts store had them cheaper than what you have listed, and they were in stock.

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    Bart, Why would you want oem rotors when they are prone to disintegrating?
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    Well, from reading this forum it seemed to be the consensus that OEM was the way to go with brakes and rotors. But, after getting the price quote from Merlin, I am just about ready to try something different.

    Ruf, what are you using?

    And has anyone tried these:

    R1Concepts

    They have these on eBay for A LOT less than OEM, but I don't want a crap product on my VX.

    Thanks - Bart

    Quote Originally Posted by Ruflyf
    Bart, Why would you want oem rotors when they are prone to disintegrating?

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    Avoid chinese made rotors, they are very soft.

    I like the stock pads very much, and after trying many different other pads will only use the stock brake components.

    John C.

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    I am using the oems, but I havent had any problems from mine. I just remember peeps talking about having issues with them.

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    For Rotors I went with the Duralast from autozone $30.00 per rotor no exchange of course and a 24 month Warranty. My rear rotors were coming apart on the inside (I replaced), and the fronts looked fine. OEM pads aren't cheap but they last.. All four corners for $172.71 from Merlin at ST Charles to my door, Free Shipping also..good luck..
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    Cool

    Another option...SP performance rotors, slotted & drilled, slotted only, drilled only or daimond slot.
    Last time I got a price quote from these guys was 10/06 & they wanted $226.79 for front pair, $226.84 for the rears.

    www.raceshopper.com

    Check em' out & see what you think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VCrossfan
    For Rotors I went with the Duralast from autozone $30.00 per rotor no exchange of course and a 24 month Warranty. My rear rotors were coming apart on the inside (I replaced), and the fronts looked fine.
    Ditto for me too. My rear rotors finally came apart on the inside at 60k miles. I do live on a dirt road so I'm sure the dust didn't help. I tried cleaning the caliper sliders a few times over the years but the rotors still went kaput. My fronts still look fine. I went to AutoZone today to buy the cheapest rear rotors (ValueCraft #31084B) & pads (DuraLast D580) for the rear just get her up and running and to make it through winter...only costs me $22.99 per rotor plus like $21.99 for the pads. Everything was in stock.
    Autozone does list cheaper pads (ValueCraft D580V @ $12.99) but these were not in stock where I was at. They also list more 'spensive pads if anyone wants premium pads.

    I ordered "R1 Concepts Inc" drilled/slotted/zinc plated front & rear rotors today for a next spring mod project. They were $154.99 + shipping($48 to PA via UPS Ground) @ their website.

    Also ordered pads from "Import Replacement parts":
    http://www.importrp.com/home.php

    (D 770 RU/5) PBR/Axxis Ultimate FRONT Brake Pad Set $44.99
    (D 771 RU/6) PBR/Axxis Ultimate REAR Brake Pad Set $44.99
    Subtotal: $89.98
    my Shipping cost: $13.06

    Total: $103.04

    Also ordered a stainless steel brake line kit from "Independent 4X":
    http://www.independent4x.com/item.jh...3&PRID=1221569

    $149.99 plus shipping (my shipping to PA was $11)

    Of course if the weather stays warm here in W. PA; Spring just might come a little early if you catch my snowless drift
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    Quote Originally Posted by nfpgasmask
    And has anyone tried these:

    R1Concepts
    I put them on both my VX and my wife's Impreza. They're working out just fine, but I only have about 2k miles on each car since the purchase. They do fit well. I also bought the ceramic pads from R1concepts. They're a really tight fit into my calipers, but they work just fine.

    edit: I actually went with the OEM style and not drilled/slotted. I have any need for extra venting and would prefer the extended pad life.

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    I paid $165 for a set of front and back discs from these guys, and a set of OEM pads for $30 all round.
    I went in and had the pads changed less than 6 months ago and asked the guys to check the discs as I had a feeling they weren't right. No they're fine. I was told.
    So here I am 6 months later and getting a grinding noise when I brake, I was replacing the front shocks with Ranchos and told them to check out the brakes and discs. "You've got about a thousand mile left on the front shoks and the discs are OK.
    But on the way back from the shop the grinding got that little bit more noticable, I ordered pads that night. when I took them to a different shop to get them fixed while I was at work,(pouring rain no garage,middle of winter, would you?)
    They rang back and said they wouldn't put the pads on as I desperatley needed discs. So the Golden Rule is if you feel it ain't right it more than likely isn't.
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    Arrow

    LOL, interesting thread. I'm at 133K miles on the original rotors and will have them turned (if needed) as I do need pads for the front, which will be the Axxis pads since stopping is kinda important to me and they've proven themselves in AutoX and RallyX circles here.
    Over 20 years of Isuzu enjoyment...

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    I am in the market soon, any updates on the R1 product?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe_Black
    LOL, interesting thread. I'm at 133K miles on the original rotors and will have them turned (if needed) as I do need pads for the front, which will be the Axxis pads since stopping is kinda important to me and they've proven themselves in AutoX and RallyX circles here.
    I'm pretty sure in my case its because I live in the proverbial "rust-belt" area of the nation. In my mind its not an ISUZU issue...its a disc brake setup doesn't like roadsalt/dust/grime/calcium chloride mix. I've had issues with other vehicles I've owned pertaining to the disc brakes too...but in those cases the vehicle would pull to one side or the other indicating a problem that could be quickly addressed. With my VX, because it is both inner pads sticking, it doesn't pull to either side and gives virtually no warning because the wear indicators are on the opposite (outboard) pads.

    Ironically, drum brakes seem to stand up to these conditions very well...usually without issue.
    My Monte Carlo has disc fronts and drum rears and the rears never give me any problems. Ditto for the Ford Bronco I used to own.

    My VX front rotors show excellent wear on the outer pads and a higher amount of wear on the inner pads..but still overall they are in good condition.
    My VX rear rotors show excellent wear on the outer pads and were used up on the inner pads...down to the rivets..which is what I started to hear screeching.

    If there is a bright side...alot of my previous vehicles had caliper piston malfunctions too...where the piston would get stuck either intitially before engaging the pad resulting in unbalanced braking or during braking where it would'nt release resulting in pulling to one side. My VX has not exhibited any of these issues.
    Last edited by Jolly Roger VX'er : 02/04/2007 at 03:23 AM

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tobert
    I put them on both my VX and my wife's Impreza. They're working out just fine, but I only have about 2k miles on each car since the purchase. They do fit well. I also bought the ceramic pads from R1concepts. They're a really tight fit into my calipers, but they work just fine.

    edit: I actually went with the OEM style and not drilled/slotted. I have any need for extra venting and would prefer the extended pad life.
    Tobert, I'm glad that they worked out for you.

    Quote Originally Posted by nfpgasmask
    Did you get those R1Concepts rotors??? If so, did you use their pads also?

    Thanks,
    Bart

    Bart, if you have any questions, feel free to ask. I'd like you to be as informed as possible, whether or not your purchase the product.

    If you don't plan on buying our rotors, let me know who your deciding on. We are a manufacturer, so we do know a lot of suppliers personally. I'll give you my honest opinion about the quality of brakes out there.

    To everyone else that have purchase rotors from us, thank you for the support.
    www.r1concepts.com
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    Quote Originally Posted by r1concepts
    Tobert, I'm glad that they worked out for you.




    Bart, if you have any questions, feel free to ask. I'd like you to be as informed as possible, whether or not your purchase the product.

    If you don't plan on buying our rotors, let me know who your deciding on. We are a manufacturer, so we do know a lot of suppliers personally. I'll give you my honest opinion about the quality of brakes out there.

    To everyone else that have purchase rotors from us, thank you for the support.

    Here's an idea for you R-1...put "VehiCROSS" in the menu on your site.
    I always feel like a vendor is interested in my business if they go to the effort of including my specific model in the list of choices I'm offered.

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