New Morgan-tec muffler & dual exhaust

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11/04/2006, 07:10 PM
Kenny

Update: New Morgan-tec muffler & dual exhaust

New Morgan-tec SS muffler (polished :supercool). This muffler is a work of art and built like a tank. The guys at the shop were quite impressed (thanks again Mike!)

2.25" inlet and 2x 2.5" outlets. No extra baffling.

It's tied-in right after the stock "Y" from the cats. I'm thinking of replacing the cats and re-do the piping and O2 sensors later.

Sorry I didn't get "before" pictures.

http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/da...MUFFLER_01.jpg

http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/da...MUFFLER_02.jpg

Re-used existing rubber mounts.
http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/da...SUPPORT_01.jpg

NEW DUALS! :grinb:
and new tips- 2.5" - 3.25" - Single walled, rolled edge, oval.

http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/DUALS_00.jpg

Up and over and around the gas tank. The 912 lift gave oodles of room.

http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/DUALS_01.jpg

one piece:
http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/DUALS_02.jpg

two piece:
http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/DUALS_04.jpg

http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/DUALS_03.jpg

I had them place the tips recessed so they would be less prone to dissapearing on moab trails (a la Tone ;))

http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/TIPS_01.jpg

Unfortunately, to get the look, I lost the ability to use my shackle.

http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/TIPS_02.jpg

..and the sound clip:
http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/sh...cat=500&page=1

keep in mind that it's only 3 days old - I'll post another in a month to see how much it "matured". :cool:

and yes, I have a red paint fetish. :goof:

Cheers, eh.
11/04/2006, 07:16 PM
biju

Looking good. Keep up the great mods!

p.s. - do you mind if I ask how much this set you back to get installed?

-biju.
11/04/2006, 07:45 PM
Ldub

Beauty EH ?!!! :p
11/04/2006, 08:04 PM
Kenny

Quote:

Originally Posted by biju

Looking good. Keep up the great mods!

p.s. - do you mind if I ask how much this set you back to get installed?

-biju.

~$80 for muffler.(super worth it!)
~$250 for install and parts.
Will be another ~$150 to do the piping between the cats and muffler (O2 sensors are there and a flex pipe). +cost of new cats.

I found a little "dad and son" shop with lots of experience - came highly recommended by the local speed shops. I basically told them to take the time and parts to do it right and then give me a bill. I'm quite happy, and I think I got a good job done...
11/04/2006, 09:17 PM
djkymar

really nice work!
question if i dont have supercharge does it make any improvments if i put dual exhaust like that?
11/06/2006, 08:11 AM
WormGod

Quote:

Originally Posted by djkymar

really nice work!
question if i dont have supercharge does it make any improvments if i put dual exhaust like that?

And to add to that question, how does it affect an existing S/C?

Any info on emissions with this exhaust?
11/06/2006, 08:55 AM
Cyrk

Looks and sounds good!
11/06/2006, 08:59 AM
Kenny

Quote:

really nice work!
question if i dont have supercharge does it make any improvments if i put dual exhaust like that?

From what I understand, this set-up will not make too much of a noticeable difference in power (I don't notice anything myself - other than sound). I do plan to get a S/C in spring, so my hope was that this will help the S/C exhaust better. But I think the optimal compliment to a S/C is to maybe lose the cats and go with TWO smaller mufflers, one on each header pipe - true duals (Tone pointed this out to me and would have much more info on this).

Quote:

Originally Posted by WormGod

And to add to that question, how does it affect an existing S/C?

Any info on emissions with this exhaust?

Yes, I'd like to find some dyno results on the board here to see any before and after S/C with stock exhaust - then aftermarket muffler & duals. I'm curious myself.

As for emissions, most provinces here don't regulate them. Sorry, can't help you there. But curious too.

Right now for me, any notable performance increase would be a bonus as I was going for the look of duals, a more agrressive "growl", and a tough cool muffler. But come the S/C, if a better setup can add a noticeable amount of hp - I may consider it, so long as it's not crazy loud.
11/06/2006, 09:23 AM
E-ZooZoo One

That Video/Sound Clip just made my day!!! :_drool:

::goose bumps::

:coolgray:
11/06/2006, 12:35 PM
djkymar

link doesnt work :(

Quote:

Originally Posted by E-ZooZoo One

That Video/Sound Clip just made my day!!! :_drool:

::goose bumps::

:coolgray:
11/06/2006, 01:07 PM
E-ZooZoo One

Quote:

Originally Posted by djkymar

link doesnt work :(

Fixed it :thumbup:

(but the one where you quoted me still isn't going to work)
11/06/2006, 02:17 PM
JHarris1385

What are those red link/bar called that are painted under your car? I dont know the name of them and think I have seen a pic of Anita's of an upgraded one? Just curious what they are and benfits of an upgrade.
11/06/2006, 07:12 PM
Tone

Very well done!

Emissions are not affected by mufflers, only sound.

If you remove the cats you'll typically not pass inspection and unless you use some kind of dummy load where the 4 O2 sensors were, you'll throw codes and possibly put the computer into some sort of limp mode.
11/07/2006, 01:48 AM
TEN36VX

Very Nice.

I'd like to see the tube set up done as a kit though so some local shop wouldn't have to "figure it out"...
11/07/2006, 08:18 AM
djkymar

kenny so if i switch my stock exhaust on one you have its not gonna make any power difference only different sound right?
11/07/2006, 01:56 PM
thedutchguy

Showin' off with yer double barrel eh? :p

http://www.airpowersystems.com.au/co...st/exhaust.jpg
11/07/2006, 02:27 PM
Anita

Bang Bang!
11/07/2006, 04:35 PM
MZ-N10

Quote:

Originally Posted by thedutchguy

Showin' off with yer double barrel eh? :p

http://www.airpowersystems.com.au/co...st/exhaust.jpg

wat is tat? c5?
11/07/2006, 05:56 PM
Kenny

Quote:

Originally Posted by djkymar

kenny so if i switch my stock exhaust on one you have its not gonna make any power difference only different sound right?

Correct.

But I noticed my fuel consumption is down since I'm being very light on the gas so as not to deafen people. :p - But then again, gunning it sounds quite cool too.
11/07/2006, 08:08 PM
morgan-tec

I am glad you are happy with my products. The install looks great. Keep up the great work on your mods.
11/07/2006, 08:30 PM
djkymar

kenny thanks, cuz im planning doing something like that too i love when exhaust sound nice
11/25/2006, 01:42 PM
Kenny

mini-update

Uploaded a clip of the muffler after putting about 2,500 miles on it.
The clip doesn't show too much of a difference other than a bit rounder when I put it in gear.

But I do notice a difference driving now, it's a bit quieter with a more truck like throaty sound. Unfortunately, there is still a nasty resonance/drone around the 1700 rpm (55 mph) mark when in "D". After putting it in "3" to get the rpms up a bit, the resonance goes away. I'll likely be putting on some mini resonators after some new cats to see if that dampens the resonance... we'll see.

for now, under 1500 and over 1900 rpm, it's sweet and can just hear (and feel) it lightly. With some B-Quiet Extreme I hope to dampen the cab noise down a bit more.

Even just rolling into the underground parking at work and tapping the gas to park I'm setting some car alarms off :evil: ,good vibrations.

VIDEO CLIP: Mellowing a bit after 2,500 miles

Cheers.
11/25/2006, 03:11 PM
Ldub

Sounds GrRrRrRrRrRreat Ken...

Really like the sound of those sweet pipes! :cool:
04/23/2007, 05:46 PM
Kenny

Update

Well after about 4 months, the Morgan Tec muffler didn't tone down as much as I wanted it to. There remained a nasty resonance at certain RPMs I couldn't take. It sounded like a turbo prop plane at certain speeds. The Morgan Tec muffler is a piece of art and I highly recommend it (if you can find one - mine's taken already) if you offroad or like a cool aggressive bark. I recommend extra baffles he can add and maybe consider some resonators if you can fit them. It hurt a bit to take it off... :(

I could have done a bunch of jerking around with new pipes and resonators and glass packs to keep the Morgan tec installed and quieter, but the cost was too close to going all new with something different.

It was suggested that two separate mufflers (one per side) would be good for high flow (a la supercharger), but my shop advised against it as a V6 does not take too kindly to this type of set up. Something about the 3 cylinders firing into each muffler is a bit too coffee can sounding and not as controlled as say a V8 with 4 cylinders per muffler.

So I think I did the next best thing, a dual in dual out Magnaflow:
http://www.magnaflow.com/02product/s...ne=main&id=596

http://www.magnaflow.com/02product/parts/14378.jpg

Installed:
http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/da...agnaflow_1.jpg

With dual 2.25 cross over pipes.
http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/da...agnaflow_2.jpg

http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/da...ross_Pipes.jpg

And while the "doc" was down there, I had Magnaflow cats installed too.
It was a few steps ahead then a step back with the new cats. The higher flow cats added back a bit of noise that I got rid of with the different muffler.
Some 2.25" pipes at the end also helped cut down on some noise...

http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/da...flow_Cat_1.jpg

So in essence it's now a full cat-back system. So far the sound is noticeably better in the cruising range of RPMs - not too much droning at all. (But she barks at about 3500!) I'll give it a few weeks to build up some carbon and then do a sound bite.

Total cost from cats to tips: ~$900 -
Wakin' up the party neighbours when she starts up in the morning: Priceless :)

Cheers all.
04/23/2007, 05:57 PM
Ldub

Noiice ! :cool:
04/23/2007, 06:08 PM
biju

...and the mod madness continues! I'm with dub ^^^... nice!

-b.
04/23/2007, 08:17 PM
djkymar

looks really nicy, cant wait to hear how it sounds like. Great work Kenny
04/24/2007, 11:48 AM
tomdietrying

Looks really nice Kenny. Can't wait to hear it in Moab.
Peace.
Tom
12/15/2008, 06:40 PM
Bieredalsace

Beautiful job~!!!!!!!
12/16/2008, 10:41 AM
LittleBeast

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bieredalsace

Beautiful job~!!!!!!!

20 months late ;)