What year VX did the engine failure occur?
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What year VX did the engine failure occur?
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Sounds like a trivia question. What do I win if I get it right? :D
-Daver
As everyone here knows my year and my mileage, I just thought that I would tie it to this thread too.
'99/73.000
I do not think year has anything to do with it. Nobody can say for sure that only '99 engines had failed or only '01..... I have '99 with about 30K on it and I am worried about the engine also.. I use quaker 4X4 semisynthetic and change it every 2.5K.. besides before I drive I ALWAYS warm engine up... not sure if it will help in the future but I have no other means to prevent possible fatal mulfunction in the future
I agree with you Andrey that the problem does not purtain to a specific year but this poll will rather hopefully keep some data for others to see.
Would it be feasible to do preventative replacement of parts on motor that did not fail ? I 've noticed at some thread that it might be design flaw.... but if it is a design flaw how come not each and every engine fail (read troopers et al. ) strange...
just a thought...maybe isuzu has a few plants creating the same 3.5l engine....Quote:
Originally posted by Andrey
...but if it is a design flaw how come not each and every engine fail (read troopers et al. ) strange...
assuming tat isuzu has more then 1 plant producing the engines, i dont think the year is the problem....i think it was which plant produced the engine.....
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I'm seriously considering this:
1994 Corvette LT1 engine with LT4 upgrade. The motor has 36000 miles. Motor is clean, but the power steering reservoir has been repaired. Complete with wiring harness and computer.Starter, Alternator, and AC compressor included.
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if I do do this it will be real soon and I will not make it to Moab...maybe next year though. Also, I will be selling my stock complete front axle assembly with 456 gear ratio, engine and the 4L30E transmission, but will be keeping TOD case.
It would be a sweet replacement for sure... keep the Corvette covers on!
So have there only been 6 engine failures of VX's that we know of? I'm sure it was a huge crisis for the people that it happened to but maybe if you look at the numbers engine failure is not really an 'problem' for VX's. That would sure be good news for me and I'm sure many others who've been paniced over threads we've read here. Are there other people here who have lost their engine? Or people who have left the board after it happened and ditching trucks in disgust? I'm just trying not to let the talk here keep me from romping on mine when I'm out having fun!
As mentioned in another thread:
My '00 Ironman died at 29k miles, about 2500 miles after I bought her last year ... rod tap (it was a heck of a lot louder than a tap!!!)
I know this thread is for VX's, but I'm pretty sure there have been just as many Troopers (and possibly Rodeos) with the same engine problem.
Besides, 6 out of around 4500 in the US... 6 that we know of (from people on this thread). There are many other VX owners out there, so who knows how many other engine failures... plus the other Trooper and Rodeo owners, or course.
Not to put more of a negative spin on this. I have a '99 and have had no engine problems (yet).
Another thing to throw into the question of motors... Isn't the Honda Passport really a Rodeo? Does it use the Isuzu engine? And if they do, do they have any problems with their motor? I would be curious to know how many different plants make the 3.5L motor... and if there is ANY corolation of problems to motors made at a particular plant.
Spazz... your gonna have problems squeezing that motor into the VX... it is narrower than the LS1 but it is also longer to accomodate the distributor... unlike the LS1 which is distributorless... the LS1 is gonna be a tight fit as it is and might end up getting the radiator relocated to the front side of the core support... not sure about that yet, but maybe.
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but, I think I will wait on engine for now and throw a Dana 60 in the rear, go with a Dana 44 solid axle in front, OX lockers fron/rear, 5.1 ratio, Warn winch, extra auxillary Yellow Top, on board air, and just about anything I pull out of ...um..my____ and decide to go with.
Maybe in 6 months I might light my hair on fire and do the engine/tranny swap. But, for now I will use this engine.
I"ve been away for quite some time from this board. I have a 99 VX at 68K and change and she's going strong. Out of the six failures we know on this board, what was the cause of failure? TIA.
Michel
My 2000 died at 53,000. It was a rod bearing failure, replaced under powertrain warranty by Isuzu.
hey guys,
i know this gets brought up from time to time, but i'm really starting to wonder about all this. my 99' has about 43,000 on it and a new pcv valve, and the thing uses about a quart every 500-700 miles. i am running full synthetic in the engine. What is bothering me is that i am hearing this a whole lot over at the rodeo and trooper forums to. now people are like "it's not alot when you consider the number made". thats bull, it's typically happening around the same mileage, usually the same diagnosis, etc. this should not be happening frequently on an auto built in the late 90's, especially under 100k on the odometer. the fact that honda recalled thousands of cars because of 6 problems with oil leaks, and that ford just recalled almost a million because of a "POSSIBLE spring break" in cold weather climates, just makes me feel like we're getting bent even more. i had an amigo that i drove the hell out of and it didn't even whimper until 175,000 miles. come one isuzu, what happened? SOOO. what are the chances of starting a class action lawsuit? i love my vehicross and appreciate isuzu for bringing it to fruition, but this happens with more that just the engine with VX owners, people have had problems with getting things replaced UNDER WARRANTY much less out of. I am seriously thinking that this is something that needs to be done, alot of people here are coming out for the worse. It has me this riled and i don't even have the problem (knock on wood). i feel really bad for the others that this has happened to. and YES isuzu should be at fault here, they are comfy because this is something that bounces around a mileage that they are comfortable with because ittend to fall just outside their responsibility. but they are being deceptive in not announcing the problem and allowing people to purchase an auto that very likely may have engine failure just outside the warranty and under 100k.
anyway, just wondering... i think we should all come together and do this for the sake of friends and ourselves. it may happen to you next.
technocoy
This was the biggest reason for getting rid of my VX. Isuzu as a company totally sucks. I thought that I'd miss my VX alot more than I do, but most of the time I don't even think about it. I just decided that I needed a vehicle I could just get into and drive without worrying that something is going to go wrong. Plus the $5000 dollar motor cost really hits the pocket hard. It never really had the power that I wanted so I didn't give up much. Sorry just have a really big grudge against Isuzu for the whole engine ordeal. Since it will never go away, I got rid of the thing that kept reminding me of them.
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43,000 on it and a new pcv valve, and the thing uses about a quart every 500-700 miles
actually, I would say that is a problem .......
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potential of 5-10 qts of oil consumed per 5000 miles .....
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OUCH .........
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imagine how many vehicles would be sold if potential owners were informed you could/would use a quart of oil every 1000 miles ........
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I can see your point. I just can't imagine getting rid of it, i can't explain how much i love this vehicle and i haven't even gotten crazy with my mods yet. I REALLY enjoy the rarity of it. But i know that i love it so much that i would replace the engine when it DID go. SO i don't think it's fair to owners who are loyal to have to deal with a company who isn't. i think they should be made to own up to a problem with their engines. i imagine that eventually i'll get a daily driver and cover the VX up to only be driven on weekends, but in the meantime i would like to not wonder when it may blow, as it's my only car right now (my dream car, but still my only car).
thanks for the input PA,
good luck with your new auto, now and hopefully past 50,000 miles!
david
David,
Thanks for the kind words. I unfortunitely had to deal with Corp. Isuzu and their Regional Service Rep when I lost my engine. All I have to say is good luck getting Isuzu to take blame for anything on their products. Hopefully your VX lasts a long time without any major headaches.
Mike
i agree, i could drive that mileage in a trip to the mountains and back (or the coast) i don't care what anyone says, a quart every 1000 miles in any post 1990 vehicle is unacceptable. And i have had several aluminum engines that never did this (the 89' amigo) so the aluminum engine/head excuse is BS. My 85 nissan pickup didn't use this much oil in 96', and i drove the dog-piss out of that thing with oversized tires on it. I think we have all been patient enough, it's eat or be eaten, i just am not sure how to go about this, so i was looking to a response from all my VX friends as to whether this is something that it is time to get serious about.
It is sad to hear the problems that people have had problems with their VX. I am lucky that I have not had a problem yet, I have a 00' with 35,000 on it and I have had a supercharger since 11,000 miles, and with the 6psi pulley since they first had them. I agree that these problems should not be happening on any vehicle as new as these. I personaly think GM is to blaim, especially after seeing that they plan on only allowing ISUZU to sell a rebadged Trailblazer for the next few years. I personaly love my vehicle, and if for any reason the motor does go out. I will just buy a used Axiom with the new direct injection 3.5L and do a lovely transplant!!!! I am sorry to those of you that have had these problems.
164,000 miles and going strong on my '99!!!
I think Isuzu is great... Just hope they build something else as sporty for me soon before Toyota puts their FJ Cruiser on the market and in the showrooms.
why don't you guys that are worried about engine failure put your minds at ease and simply pop your EGR valve off, spray it down with carb cleaner and put it back on. Take the PCV out, shake it next to your ear. If you hear it rattle you can keep it in, if you don't feel comfortable in that decision, replace the $4 part.
If it still consumes oil afterwards, call James Scot Farrin.
vx69, are you sure about the 6psi pulley? I have the upgraded 5psi one. I am not aware of a 6lb one... yet.
What is a PCV?
Hi all,
my friend is an Isuzu rep in NJ and he just showed up in a 05 Ascender. Rebadged Trailblazer, nope. Its like ssaying the Hombre was a rebadged s10. Every panel on the truck is different on the Assender (yes i know i spelled it incorrectly). The rear hatch, 1/4 panels, glass, i THINK the front doors are the same. Hood, fenders, front and rear bumper, all different. The cage (inner structure) might be the same as well as the inline 6 (droool). Anyway, he told me that alot of motors have been replaced under warranty, but alo have to do with owners not bringing the problem to Isuzu's attention soon. One guy refused a timing belt replacement repair (under warranty) because he needed the truck ASAP, guess what, timing belt broke. 6k for a new motor installed, not warrantied. AND YOU KNOW HE TRIED TO BLAME ISUZU. well thats my 2 cents
Ron
If you are looking at the engine there is a red plug with tube connected towards the front right (in front of the front right coil/plug). To change you just pull it out and put a new one in and recconnect the hose, easier then an oil change! Takes less then a minute!Quote:
Originally posted by chucklee
What is a PCV?
Just ran across this thread and thought I would post my info... my engine failed at 78k. It had to be rebuilt twice.
lowzone, when the timing belt fails on an Isuzu it does NOT trash the engine since it is a non-inteference type.
http://cherolet.com/trailblazer.htm
http://isuzu.com/ascender5.jsp;jsess...47EBEE.tomcat3
They are the same vehicles with a few panel and trim choices. A Chevy motor. Isuzu did not make this vehicle. An Isuzu exec brought one to Moab year before last when they announced the end of the Trooper and no one took him up on his offer to look at or drive it.
And BTW, you did spell it right! :winkp:
50,000 miles up no problems so far. Actually, with the exception of the CD changer which has now just swallowed all the CD's that were in it, and refuses to work anymore, nothing has gone wrong anywhere on the whole vehicle yet.
:( mine 99 siver came up with an engine knock last week. was backing up and hit a snow bank in truck stalled right out. started it up and the knock started. the truck runs like nothing is wrong with it smooth idle and noise goes away when you give it a little gas not sure what to do nearest dealer is a 100 mile away.has 78,000 on it. any ideas?
Did you check to see if the snowbank kinked your exh. pipe?
All I have to say is as far as 4X4 SUV companies go, if you disclude Isuzu who do you have left? Jeep and LandRover. And if you want to talk problems...
Else I would take a Hummer H1 or military HUMVEE but who can aford one.
HAve there really been 24 seperate engine failures that VX owners have posted on this board? Given the relatively small member base, this is an incredibly high %.
Also, were the engines that failed consuming oil at time of failure? Was low oil to blame?
I'm looking at buying either an '01 VX and an '01 Trooper for a 32 mile daily commute. I used to own the '01 trooper that I'm looking at, and it consumed no oil. The VX is reported to consume some oil at highway speeds.
I have a '00 Ironman and just suffered a blown motor..... The original owner I just found out replaced the motor at 25,000mi and now Im replacing it at 51,000mi.... Both myself and the original owner kept the truck in tip top shape as we both did synthetic changes every 2,500mi..... I never had problems keeping the oil in the motor. I was told the reason my motor is blown is because the 3.5L V6 had a top end oil problem.... Oil is not getting to the top of the #3 cylinder and it seizes.... of course the motor is still running so it snaps the connecting rod( this would be the tapping noise everyone hears). Isuzu is replacing my motor under warranty and setting me up with a stronger oil pump(to get the oil up to that #3 cylinder) and making some mods to my head to allow the oil to flow better. Ive had the pcv valve problem and dont think it has anythin to do with your motor blowing( just stalling and check engine light coming on). What worries me is the fact my warranty ends at 75,000 mi..... If my motor blows on schedule again Ill be buying one. I talked to the dealership about maybe getting something new because of these problems but was only offered 9k for a trade in! I bought it new a yr 1/2 ago for $19,000..... What a rip off. I think my next vehicle will rely on a japanese manufacturer since Ive had no luck with american motors. Anyway I take extremely good care of my VX and drive it gently so this proves there is a design flaw in the motor and no one is immune to this problem.
O yeah..... When it blew I was on my way to work... It was fine in the morning but halfway to work after pulling out from a stop light it started to tap and by the time I got to work my connecting rod had punched through the cylinder wall.