And this is the picture they published after 70 days and 10 car washes:
http://static1.consumerreportscdn.or...sted_03-14.jpg
Article: http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/m...ners/index.htm
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And this is the picture they published after 70 days and 10 car washes:
http://static1.consumerreportscdn.or...sted_03-14.jpg
Article: http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/m...ners/index.htm
They lie. My Back to Black is the best and longest lasting application I've ever done. They just don't know how to do it right...
Please enlighten us...
Who washes their car weekly? Hell, at my last wash interval, 10 washes would have been 25 years ;)
Guilty as charged sir...:bwgy::smilewink:bgwo::bgwb:Quote:
Originally Posted by Triathlete
Sick, just sick :)
I completely agree. Back to Black is the best, but you must apply like a wax. Apply liberally and then buff off.Quote:
Originally Posted by VXobsession
I picked up this a few weeks ago based on the reviews.
http://www.amazon.com/Carworx-133-17.../dp/B008A5GRHM
I've yet to try it out as I need to give the truck a thorough washing. Will report back in a few weeks.
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Originally Posted by VXobsession
Have you guys tried all the products in the article? I'd never heard of ReNu Finish.Quote:
Originally Posted by LittleBeast
I have used the Turtle Wax, Meguiars, and Mothers products. I am currently using an Eagle One product that I really like. Of the above, I liked the Turtle Wax product the best. Works great if you leave the VX out in the sun and apply to the cladding when it's warm.Quote:
Originally Posted by vt_maverick
ReNu is available on Amazon and looks very much like the Wipe New product...could be the same product marketed differently.
Another product that I have seen good reviews on is Forever Black, but I've never tried it and it looks like it's not an easy application.
I'll stick with B2B. I can be messy with that & not damage paint. Meguires discolored the paint on one of my cars.
I like Meguiar's Professional M40 Mirror Glaze Vinyl and Rubber cleaner/conditioner. Subtle shine, less oily residue to collect dust. Apply like Mothers. Located in the autobody section not the cleaning products.
http://www.meguiars.com/en/professional/products/
Thanks for the recommendation Ala5ka, definitely looks promising. How much does this typically run in the spray bottle?
Here's a direct link: http://www.meguiars.com/en/professio...ditioner-16oz/
Less than $12.00 from Amazon...don't ask me how I know but it will be here on Thursday.Quote:
Originally Posted by vt_maverick
It's like $16 a bottle from O'reilly's
What do we think of "303"?
haven't tried it don't know where to get it but it comes highly recommended by some.
I used wipe new and it still seems to be holding up just fine 11/2 years so far
You can simplify to 5 1/2 yearsQuote:
Originally Posted by whitebreadx
Lol...
I bought a bottle of the Meguiar's M40 product mentioned on page 1 and tried it out over the weekend. This is unquestionably a commercial grade product and quite different from their protectant product featured in the Consumer Reports article. I've used that product before and it's a heavy, milky white substance that actually dries to a yellow wax if not applied to the vehicle. The M40 product is thin and comes in a spray bottle, and appears to be either light white or clear (couldn't tell, it kinda foams on the terry cloth when you spray it). And man oh man does it stink. As in apply it outside or with fans running and all doors open in your garage, then let it sit overnight to dissipate. But it leaves a beautiful dark finish, and you can actually watch it penetrate the cladding during application (as opposed to their "protectant" product which seems to be a layer of oil or silicone that simply sits on top of the cladding). I put 4 coats on with a terry cloth applicator and a terry cloth drying towel, and it took no time at all - a spray bottle is way faster than pouring it out of a bottle (a la Back to Black or the other Meguiar's product).
So I'm very happy with the initial appearance, but as we all know the real question is how it reacts to rain and how long it lasts. It's supposed to rain here this week so I'll leave it outside for a few days to see if there's any immediate degradation.
Good to hear...mine came on Thursday and unfortunately it snowed yesterday so no detailing this weekend.
I can't wait to try it...but more snow on Thursday and Friday so maybe this weekend.
tried Armor All Outlast trim and plastic today...stay away from that stuff dusty swirls city, hoping it will come off eventually
In other news I saw an ad for this in Motor Trend today:
Mother's Back to Black Heavy Duty
http://www.mothers.com/02_products/p...ages/06141.jpg
Imagine scrubbing all of your cladding with that little toothbrush :)
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Originally Posted by vt_maverick
I bought this today from my local O'Reilly's today. About $10 and you get a free 12 oz. Back to Black.
So spent some time with this over the course of the afternoon.
I used the small brush on the rear half moon to test it out. Product is a gel and it smells like Fantastik spray cleaner. Did a great job of cleaning and leaving the cladding bare.
I used a microfiber towel to apply this one cladding piece at a time. I put it on thick and then used a larger detail brush, with stiff bristles like the small one, to scrub and then removed with a microfiber towel. If I did this all at one time it would take me about an hour to do the entire VX and wipe it down.
I treated the cladding with the Meguiars 40 product discussed in this thread. Put it on heavy and rubbed it in good, going around the VX 3-4 times. It starts to get sticky after a bit and like Ashley said above you need to do it outdoors...whew!
I'll post some pics, but I think it looks great and has less shine than the other products that I've used. We'll see how it holds up to frequent washes...:smilewink:bgwo::bgwb::bwgy:
http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/da...estore_559.JPG
http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/da...estore_558.JPG
http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/da...estore_557.JPG
Come on...admit it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mile High VX
All of that was simply a ploy to be able to post another jealousy-inducing picture of your fender mirror. :p
fount it!
http://shop.armordillots1.com/
I don't trust that armadillo...he looks like an unsavory character
I used Armordillo TS-1 several times and it's a good product; it lasted much long than B2B but didn't darken the cladding as well as I'd hoped and also didn't last more than 2-3 months. Plus distribution channels were drying up since GM started recommending a different product (can't remember what) to Avalanche owners.
Still a good choice if you can find it though.
I Just Had My Entire VX Cladding Professionally Painted & Baked On In A Spray Booth With Gatorback Plastic Coating Paint. Finally The Satin Look I Desired, No More Streaks, & No More Applying Any Treatments Like Showroom New And Back To Black Etc. - Just Soap & Water - It Looks Amazing !!!! http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/da...ding_Front.JPG
for me the turtle wax stuff looked and applied exactly the same as back to black but lasted about 10x longer as far as the shine is concerned - rain would take back to black right off and no matter how long i let it soak in and buffed it out - it would get runs - turtle wax has all the positive and none of the negative of back to black - never tried the other ones
that looks perfect!Quote:
Originally Posted by ALC1717
Hi where did you get that done and how much was it
I would be interested in doing something like that:)
I get streaks no matter what I apply to the cladding
That looks awesome
I also used GB and love the stuff!!! I taped off the paint and sprayed three coats for a nearly flawless, even finish. The best part is how this products dries evenly. I've also used it on some black interior pieces with great results. It helps cover up scratches/inperfections but also hides the original cladding texture a bit.Quote:
Originally Posted by ALC1717
The Bad: GB still comes off with a strong dose of gasoline and it's essentially a special paint vs keeping the cladding original (and faded :cool:).
http://gatorbackcoatings.com/home.htmQuote:
Originally Posted by Otto
3 aerosol cans of GB and one can of cleaner will give you enough to spray the entire cladding and have some leftover for future touch-ups.
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Originally Posted by VXorado
What is this faded you speak of....:bwgy::smilewink:bgwo::bgwb:
I wonder if Krylons' Fusion line of spray paints for plastics would be similar if the surface was prepped sufficiently?Quote:
Originally Posted by ALC1717
With All Due Respect You Guys Do Not Seem To Understand. I Had My Cladding Prepped, Painted & Baked On In A Professional Spray Booth NOT With An Aerosol Spray Can !http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/da.../DSCN08131.JPGhttp://www.vehicross.info/gallery/da.../DSCN08131.JPG
Can you give us a ballpark figure on what it would cost us if we chose to do the GB professionally with booth and all?